Best Pancakes in the DMV, Monk Discipline & The Weight Men Carry | Ep. 12 (Season 1 Finale)

0:25Welcome to Black and Victorious Podcast. I am black. I am victorious. I am also victorious.

0:33I am also black. What's up? What's up, man?

0:37I see you got that Morgan State on.

0:39Yeah, you know, y'all always gotta rap when it's time, dog. You know what I'm saying? That great Morgan State University life. You know, had to make sure, you know. MSU.

0:48That's tight, huh? I like that joint. Thank you, Titan.

0:50I appreciate that. You don't, you I'm I'm glad you're doing a very good job of respecting Morgan State.

0:55I never disrespecting Morgan State. I know you haven't, but so why? So why do you bring it up? That's what I'm saying. Every time we talk about Morgan State, you got this hyper, hyper, like you know, you don't have to be hyper aggressive when it comes to Morgan State. You can't help it. You you need to help it. I probably should. You should. I'm not saying not to be proud, but dog, it's like you want to, you know, you you want to fight somebody just because you go on fight is crazy. I'm saying that was just school taught you.

1:22Nah, it's you, man. Morgan State, man. It's just it it lives. You know what? The reason why I be so scissed about Morgan, it grew me up. It grew you up. Yeah. Understood? Yeah, it's yeah, Morgan State. The experiences definitely grew me up. And you know I'm scissors, man.

1:38Yeah, yeah. Why you size though? Because I know, but just why you size? My son. Your son gone. He holding down the legacy. He gone. Yeah.

1:48To me, it don't even like, you know, people be like, this is the legacy, legacy. I'm scissed about it. Um, but I'm like, I always want, you know, what's best for him. So if he felt like he wanted to do something else or go travel, do whatever he wanted to do, you know what I mean? But he chose Morgan, though.

2:03But what if he would have chose what's what's Morgan's uh what's their uh the the like uh rival nemesis, yeah, their rival.

2:13I mean people say coming because it just it's like the I don't think it's best, yeah. It's definitely not. Yeah, there's other schools within the Miac who we play and stuff like that, yeah. But I wouldn't, HBCU loves HBCU love. And the end of the day, I would have talked big trash.

2:29NFL love is NFL love.

2:31No, it's not the same. It is the same. No, it's not the same.

2:34I mean, it's not the same in the space.

2:36It's not the same, but it is the same. No, it's not the same. It is, I'm telling you. At the end of the day, HBCU, so we can we can this is what HBCUs do. We can, we will disagree, argue with each other, talk to each other, but if we talk about HBCU about a PWI, or we have united like Voltron.

2:57That's what I'm saying. It's the same. It's the same. If if a football player, if if people disrespect the whole league, then that league will come together to have something to fight against. You know, that's that's kind of normal when you're a part of something.

3:12All right, I ain't gonna argue with you.

3:14You can't argue with me about that. You can't. All right. So I'm just asking you. The reason why I'm saying that is because you you you you do you have a rival? That's all I'm asking about. No, I just told you. That's what I'm saying. You went down the line, and I'm just asking about your rival.

3:30I'm coughing. Nah, that's all I got.

3:33Who's the biggest team that y'all play? Or the the team that y'all always play in this.

3:38Morgan State is the third largest HBCU in the country.

3:44Okay. I didn't know that. Yeah.

3:46That's date. North Carolina Ante is one.

3:49Number one. Because miles and miles of homecoming.

3:52And I'm not gonna say anything about bad about North Carolina Anti.

3:56Nah, nothing besides their homecoming is just a marathon. Yeah, you know, it's a lot of walking. A lot of walking.

4:02And you know, they say Howard is a larger school. It just doesn't make sense. Uh the jury is still out. The jury is still out.

4:14So it's between one of them.

4:17Well, if you want to talk about a rival, I think those are the only schools that like a larger than us. But uh there's no no school that comes. Hold on, let me finish. There's no school that comes close to the academic uh excellence.

4:32No, I'm not gonna let you finish. Do you know, do you know what a rival is?

4:36Yeah. Well what is what is a rival? What I'm trying to express to you is that a rival is somebody I know a rival is a a school that you have a history of like wanting to win or compete with consistently, you know, over a group over uh over a group of a period of time. Yeah, but then you just went to like the the the Because what I'm trying to explain to you one in because yeah, what I'm trying to explain to you is there's there's no school to even debate whether or not they're better than us. We've been we're the best. So this is exhausting, man. This is exhausting. I knew that was I knew I was setting that one. All right, all right, I was setting that one up. I'm done. I feel like I did a pretty decent job. You didn't, you didn't. So we're talking about that, like, you know, around like this whole conversation around like what Morgan has done for me and many other, you know, since 18, you know, since the 19th century. Been amazing. Um but I wanted to ask, like, you know, Morgan has done a very good job of inspiring me to want to be better, okay. Uh academically and also be better for my community. I remember being at Morgan fighting for that library that's there. I remember being at Morgan leading protests. I remember being at Morgan running for student government, being at Morgan with the dude, uh, who's the pastor in Atlanta now? Um Jamal Bryant. Jamal O'Brien, like help, like I remember he was like inspiration around like political activism. Do you can you think about who has inspired you the most throughout your life? Person, thing, event.

6:26That's a that's a a very good question. That's a very good question. Um the most I don't I don't know if I have an answer for that. You know I do have answers for particular things. Like my cousin Kevin, he was the person that inspired me to be an artist because he was just such a fearless artist and he made sure that, you know, every time at a family event he'll make me sing and stuff like that, you know what I'm saying? So him as far as being uh uh a man, like a a a a good the way you think it because it's a tough question. You guys you know yours like off the top? Yeah. So Mr. Blake, uh Billy Blake was my best friend. His father uh was someone who was very like I he inspired me a lot. He was a great man. He was like, you know, you got the community father. He was probably like your father, you know what I'm saying? So he he was the community father, and since Billy was my best friend, it was like, you know, I I was closer to him than everyone else besides his real son. You know what I'm saying? He used to come to my basketball games. He came to more basketball games than my father did. Okay, you know what I'm saying?

8:11Uh I mean, that's that's decent. Yeah, I mean, don't feel like you have to go through the whole gambit.

8:22You ain't gotta run for inspiration. That's cool, man. For me, it's definitely in my adulthood, definitely King. But hands down, as a and it it was him because it was when you are father, for it was whatever I said to him, I had to be. So it was like, oh, you need to do this, you gotta do this. And so I had to example what that looked like.

8:54So I think Yeah, but but so I'm confused though. And you always confuse me with this. Okay. Yeah, so there we go. My opinion of inspiration is you said, what's inspired me? I think that in my opinion, or from what I know it to be, it's like something that I see that is being exampled, and that is encouraging me to do or become something similar. What you described, in my opinion, is more so motivation. Like this is my motivation to become this. Yeah, would that be true?

9:38Yeah. Yeah. So inspire me to be better. You just what? Why can't it be both?

9:45Because motivation and I'm saying that I think motivation and inspiration are two different things. I think inspiration is something that, you know, like I said, is in is exampled. Someone who's actually doing something that you may want to do or whatever, and that inspires you. And motivation is something that you are doing something because of. Okay, I accept that. I don't like how you accept like when I when I when I make good points, like you, you you accept it, like, oh, okay.

10:17It's it's it's more than okay for me to like I see your train of thought. I see where you're with where you're going with that. And I'm and I try to adjust it, but I don't necessarily, I don't look at P. I haven't, this is not like I haven't looked at other people's lives and said, I want to do that. I don't I don't have that in my brain around, you know, um like doing something that someone else does. I think the inspiration comes from for me, is like putting myself into a situation or like um being told something, not necessarily looking at another person's life and feeling? Yeah, so that's where it comes from for me. And so like as an adult, it was my my son, but as a child, it was my father. He like inspired me, not inspired me to do what he's done, but inspired me to be, or told me, or helped me to understand around my my own greatness, around what I could have come what I could accomplish. And my mom is more so in my adulthood as well, around uh I was able to get gain inspiration from from example like seeing her life and seeing the decisions she's made, and it like this inspiration, like strength and stuff like that. So that's how I kind of like examine the world to some degree and how it's giving me, I guess, motivation.

11:41I got you. I got you. Well, I I'll say this. My cousin also, my cousin Lenny, he was uh he, I think he what, like three years older than me. Okay, but my man had like all of the fly cars, the same cars as the hustlers had back in the day, but he was working. Okay. You know what I'm saying? And I got a chance to see that you can get all of these things by just hard work. You don't necessarily gotta go to the street to do it. Okay. But then I also remember you was telling me about like, you know, like uh Malcolm X and and you know, Marcus Garvey and you know, all of these people that you looked up to. Very much so. So would you consider them inspiration on how you move?

12:23I uh I think they're historical mentors for sure. Like I looked at, you know, Marcus Garvey building a UNIA and been able to like galvanize Africans all across the world, uh, to you know, having one of the biggest movements of black people um to date. I thought that that was a great example of what can be done when you kind of have a goal and mission. El Hajj Malik Shabazz is super powerful for me because of his ability to become something else. Like to have an identity like Detroit Red and to have this identity of a uh you know a petty thief, spend time in jail and then dedicate and say, nah, I just wanna I wanna be a whole nother person, uh, and then become El Haj Malik Shabazz. It's just like uh I that's the type of life that I would want to like decide to be. Like, oh yo, I I wanna I wanna do this now. I wanna do this now, I wanna be, you know what I mean, this. And so El Hajj was and the El Haj because of his just discipline. Yeah. And you know, a lot of people talk a lot about like civil rights leaders and what they were doing, and how yeah, El Haj was never, man was always like right here when he do you think that you can be monk like discipline? No, no, not at all. Not once, no, no, impossible. No, no, impossible? Yes, for me, no. I don't want I don't strive.

13:54I don't I didn't say strive, I didn't say anything.

13:56No, I can't.

13:57Earlier today, we was talking about something, and you said I can do anything. I can. So I'm not asking you, do you want to do it? I'm asking you That's what I felt like you was asking. No, I'm said do do you think that you could have monk type discipline? Like, could you, if you if that's something that you really wanted, do you think you're asking me two questions?

14:20I never really want to do it. I already know that. All right, so no, because I'm not I'm not motivated to do it.

14:27So you gonna do it? No, but what I'm saying is I'm just asking you. So, do you think that you have control over your body that no? No, I like a bunch. I don't need no to tell you, young.

14:41No, you didn't you're not telling me no. You know why no, you know why it's no, young? Because it's it's no for so many reasons, because I like too many things that I know it's not good for me. I know. Like after this podcast, you know what I'm about to go do?

14:56Go eat something.

14:57I'm about to go eat, man. I'm about to get some ice cream with my man. Ice cream, my man can't. We go get some ice cream. Hey, young, he probably won't go eat something. Yeah, we're gonna go eat, young. And I'm not gonna think about whether or not it's good for me or not. You know what else? It's like nah, nah. I I can't be a monk, but I be chilling. But when you think about, you know, your life, and you do you have as an adult? We talked on the podcast about like basil being an adult food. I still think it's an adult food, and I think most of the people agree with me. Basil is an adult food.

15:35No, you said basil was the best food. It is. Okay.

15:39Uh as a k as an adult now, uh-huh, do you have a different favorite cereal? Or is your cereal the same favorite since you were a child? Yeah, and this probably be crazy. I don't know you the type of Bamayan. This favorite cereal conversation is gonna trip me out. I can't even.

16:02I don't think so. There's a lot of things in this this this is loaded, like this this whole conversation right here is loaded. So, first of all, I don't think that this the cereal that I like now, that's probably my favorite, it wasn't out back then. You like the best cereal there is. What is it, yeah? You tell me. No, I'm not. Cinnamon Toast Crunch, the best cereal there is. Cinnamon Toast Crunch wasn't out when I was back in the day.

16:35You telling me you so old that cinnamon toast crunch wasn't invented when you were a child. You act like cinnamon toast crunch was around your whole life. Yeah, cinnamon toast crunchies. I ain't getting cinnamon toast crunch. I probably got cinnamon toast squares.

16:51When? How old were you when you got those? I remember.

16:54We used to get the multiple. Dog, we used to get the multi-male jumps. Now you gonna Google it.

16:59I'm gonna Google it because we didn't get name brand cereal.

17:02We had my mom had the Tupperware.

17:06I don't believe Cinnamon Toast Crunch is that old, yeah. Yeah, just because you won in the 60s.

17:12How old? Bro, is cinnamon toast. Are you really Googling this?

17:16I am, yeah. Cause uh it's no way the cinnamon toast crunch is that old, yeah.

17:20Yeah, that is insane, yeah. So I of course, of course you're wrong. And I was just gonna let you live. I just gonna live.

17:28What? When was you this this 81? It wasn't yeah, it wasn't out when you was born. All right, black. It wasn't, it came out in 84.

17:36All right, black. So it was it was open in your childhood. They had cinnamon toast crunches.

17:40Yeah, but I didn't know anything about it. So once I got a hold of Cinnamon Toast Crunch, then it was all over. But I didn't get a hold of Cinnamon Toast Crunch till I got older. Now, mm back in the day, you know, I was forced to eat them joints that that that look like roaches. I hated them. Grape nuts? No. The uh the little uh what are them joints called, yeah? Look like roaches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't remember what they was called. I'm sure it in the comment. Yeah, I'm quite sure.

18:11But so I wasn't talking about force. I said what is your favorite when you was a kid.

18:15My favorite was like Fruit Loops. Any kind of like, you know, like Fruity, huh? Fruity, Fruity Pebbles. Okay, uh uh Fruit Loops, Fruit Loops, Captain Crunch, Captain Crunch with the berries, though. The berries, the fruity berries, regular joints that would that all of them tore up your mouth though. Okay, oh no, tricks, tricks was in it too. Okay, yeah, tricks, fruity pebbles, fruity pebbles is probably fourth because they get soggy too quick. So, first, let's go with first first first childhood cereal Cabinet Crunch. Cabinet Crunch. Cabinet Crunch.

18:52All right, that's number one is uh Fruit Loops. Fruit Loops, number two, Fruit Loops. Third is tricks, tricks, yeah. All right, yeah, and that was so hard to get to. All right, now let's try this question again. All right, what is your three adult favorite cereals? Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Number one. Yeah, why are you rubbing your toes together like that? Yeah, cinnamon toast crunch. Frosted mini weeds. I didn't want to put up the number two. Are you serious? I love frosted mini weeks, huh? You don't like frosted mini weeks? I I I've never eaten frosted mini weeds. Oh, you gotta try. I bet you I won't.

19:37I'm telling you, you gotta try. They're like, they're like uh they're like the You're preparing. They're like the basil of cereal. You're preparing. I don't know what my third one is. Because that's normally it. Okay. I eat Cheerios, you know. What kind of Cheerios? Honey, honey nut Cheerios.

19:59Hey, you a wild boy, yeah.

20:01But you know what's crazy? Is none of those cereals I liked when I was up when I was young.

20:05That's why I asked you.

20:06Raising brand.

20:07So my don't, young, is it my go? Go go go ahead. Have at it. No, you might have to name all the cereals, young as an adult. Raising brand crunch is number one. Raising band, raising brand crunch is number one.

20:20Oh no. So you you don't even no go go because do how you did me. What was your your older ones first? Yeah, that was wild. But but I'm trying to chill, dog.

20:33I'm not I'm not doing that. I got you. Number one, multi-mill. That's what we gotta say first. We didn't have name brand cereals. So I don't but what was they impersonating? Everything. So the fruit loops was fruit ring. Okay, I got that. Captain Crunch probably was Captain Joe. No, it probably wasn't Captain. He was a skipper. Yeah. Skipper Crunch. Skipper Crunch. Alright. So it was uh definitely uh I think Captain Captain Crunch, Skipper Crunch, um uh uh uh Apple Apple Jax.

21:11Ooh, sleeper, Apple Jax, Apple Jacks was like that.

21:18I know, I know. Apple Jax crazy. And the third and final, which was off the hook, but you had to add sugar, and I felt like the sugar we was adding was out of control.

21:29Dick, it was so it was a layer at the bottom of the bowl.

21:32At the bottom of the bowl, we all know was the rice crispies, and used to listen to them pop, crackle and pop. Yeah, yeah. My rice crispies, dog. That that was that was it. But razor brand crunch is pretty much all I go for now. Razor brand crunch with bananas. I add a sliced banana in it, bomb. But if I want to, you know, raise my sugar, then I'm gonna eat Cabin Crunch or like cinnamon toast crunch.

21:58Oh, you a cinnamon toast crunch?

22:00Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I get the name, bruh. Yeah, I got you. You got it now. I'm doing all right. Yeah, yeah.

22:05I'm doing all right, dog. You know the cereal that I'm talking about? Remember the cereal that had a frog as um as the mascot? Oh, that's um smacks. Dumbler joints didn't look like roaches. Honey smacks, yes. They look like roaches.

22:20Honey smacks. Honey smack. Honey smacks. But hold on. What what uh you was forced to eat them? You didn't like them? It was okay. Oh, man.

22:30When I was young, I eat, you know, I was I was I was a savage.

22:33Yeah, but that's funny, young, because as an adult, like I think part of like one of the things, like adult culture, me and my man Los, like we was talking about uh you know, doing this tour.

22:43Yeah, food tour.

22:44Yeah, yeah. We're gonna do, we yeah, we're gonna do a tour, we're gonna do um uh pancakes and pizza tour. Oh my goodness. Yeah, we just gonna go to different catch the train, catch just go to different cities.

22:57That's so fat. Yeah, you thought I was gonna say something else.

23:02You're gonna say something else. Yeah, young pancakes. So what? So what? So what? That's what I'm talking about with people, man. What do you mean? So what if you like the thing is the thing about life, young, is that you would just want to be healthy. You wanna be healthy, but that's why I told you I can't be no monk. Because, like, if I'm not eating pancakes every single day, I can eat pancakes.

23:25But but uh you're right, but you're talking about a tour.

23:29Dang all right.

23:30And the tour is like non-stop pancakes and pizza.

23:34Going in.

23:35How many days?

23:36What kind of how many days? Well, I mean, we're gonna go like a weekend, then we're gonna do another weekend, we, you know what I'm saying? Like, probably like once every two months, we're just gonna travel to a spot. I mean, enjoy part of the city, but we just gonna eat pizza and pancakes. But that leads me to the question in a DMV, in a DMV, who got the best pancakes in a DMV?

23:57Because pancakes, young, is like a we've had this conversation, and listen, one that never misses. One that never misses, dog. I hop never misses. I hop never misses. Listen, all right, here we go. And you and we went to IHOP one day and you agree with me.

24:18I hope never misses disagree. I hop is I hop is like the it's not below average, it's not above average. It'll do. I don't know about it, it'll do. It'll do. I feel like you don't leave a hop like young them pancakes was they just they feel in, they treat you right. They just consistent. That's what I hop pancakes are. Okay. Consistent. But they're not the best pancakes in the DMV.

24:48I like um first watch. The the uh curry cake.

24:53The curry cake pancake. They can do better. It's good, but they can do better. I want I want better for them. It's good flavor, but they the edges, it's a little dry. You know what I'm saying? They need a little bit more situation. They need they need they need they can do better. Okay, who who do you have? Farmers and distillers got some bomb pancakes.

25:19This is the place with the um with the uh brunch?

25:23Yeah. Thumb joints bomb.

25:25The pancakes with the brunch?

25:27Yeah. Nah, yeah. Alright, you live your life.

25:32I can see they're getting the side of the pancakes, the ones that they cook in the back and they special order or something.

25:37Nah, they not say me out, but you tripping. I I get it. You you want to live that life. You want to live the life. Do you think I want to live the life? They airy. They airy, they they light, they, they, they light and eerie. So, what makes a good pancake? So, uh now I'm about to move to who got the best pancakes in this area. Okay. Best pancakes in this area is cracker barrel. The thing that makes a pancake, now that's if you go on out. I actually think I make the best pancakes in the DMA. That's one of the compensation.

26:06If you ask Royal, she she she would, you know, she would definitely be.

26:10I've never made Royal pancake before.

26:11I know, but you the only person that made her pancakes. No, her mother's made a pancake. Okay. And her aunt has made her a pancakes. Who she thinks is the best. She only wants my pancakes from this point forward. I'm on your neck.

26:23Trust. I am on your neck. All right, it's cool. Uncle Vic. She only wants my pancakes. That's cool. Do you make it with the crispy edges?

26:31Yes. She don't like crispy edges. I got you doing.

26:35What are you doing to my niece?

26:37She just doesn't like crispy edges. And I make it perfect. Like, you know what I'm saying? But she she makes me peel the edges off. She doesn't like the crispy edges.

26:45So your opinion is no longer valid. Why is that? Because you're doing something to my niece. Nah, nah, dog. Nah, crispy edges, cracker barrel, that's the best. I can't argue that. Of course you can't. And I think number two, I think number two is farmers and the stillas. Number three has to be. Here's a sleeper. I know you might disagree, but Denny's got some bomb pancakes.

27:16No, no, take it off the list. I don't want any. I'm good. Young. I don't know what you're lunching off. People beating the biggest. You might as well say Bob. Denny's is next to Bob Evans. I've never eaten at Bob Evans. Exactly. That's why I don't even know why you eat at Evan.

27:31You know why you disrespect that Denny's?

27:33Denny's is, I don't even know why you go there considering it's.

27:36Never eat at Denny's and party like little Penny cannot live.

27:39Nah, man.

27:40Is that what it is?

27:40Didn't something happen with Lil Denny's when we was boycotting the man? Yeah, something happened. Yeah, yeah.

27:44And you and you just you just walked away from the boycott. Should we still be boycotting them? Because I still ain't at target. I mean, yeah, I'm you still gone, so it doesn't matter. No, I feel like they recognize it. And it feels like it ain't number old people in there.

27:58What company has reconciled? What are you talking about?

28:01I might be, I think they did.

28:04No, no, no. You just decided to start eating again. I'm against the people. Yes, you are. Just over some stale pancakes.

28:10You disrespect the Denny's. Don't do that.

28:12Denny's is in Bob Evans in my. So what?

28:15They got oppression pancakes.

28:16What? They got oppression pancakes.

28:21Oppression pancakes. And you like oppression pancakes. Hey, look, man, I'd rather have my oppression in my pancakes than in my own people. They got it all over there. All right, well, all right, dog. So I pancakes in the DMV, but I'm we're gonna find out. I'm gonna find out up in the up and down the East Coast. Because Breakfast Boys, when we go to Atlanta, pancakes crazy barbed.

28:41Hold up though. What about the what is that joint? Sophia? Whatever joint we went to in Philly? Oh, um, what is that joint called?

28:53It's like Sophia. But their pancakes not that bomb, though. It's not? Nah, they shrimp and grist was bomb. Their pancakes weren't bomb. And I don't think it was Sophia's. It's something else. But I can't remember it. So And you don't think their pancakes was bomb? Nah, they was they was average.

29:06I feel like you like you love pancakes, though. Yeah, I'm a connoisseur. Is pancakes your favorite food? Breakfast food? No, favorite food. Like, is that the like is pancake the the You know what?

29:17Hey, that's a good question. Because I can eat a pancake for dinner, breakfast, and lunch. And brunch. And snack. I could too. Yeah.

29:24But what I think about, I just don't feel like, like, I don't think that pancakes is that hard to make.

29:31Yes, they that's what I'm saying, dog. Hold on, let me ask you this. Because I know, you know what I'm saying? Man, I'm getting frustrated. Hold on. Do you make pancakes from scratch? What is scratch? Yeah, you don't. Do I get the box? I pour, I pour it in, and I put the water. You don't. See, that's how I know you're not a connoisseur. You don't even know you in your mind, you have never made a pancake from scratch. You have never put no baking soda, baking powder, sugar, flour. You've never done it. Never done it. You've never made like honey, honey syrup. Never doing it. You've never made like no honey maple syrup, no like orange, meringue. Like put some like some lemon zet. Nah. That's what I'm saying, dawg. You ain't living like you're supposed to, so you can't have no conversation with me about pancakes. You doing too much. Nah, whatever, dog.

30:17I'm doing too much for a pancake.

30:19That's what I'm saying. But stop me that just stop me that you're upset that you're treating my niece like this. Just do that. She deserves a pancake from scratch.

30:26Well, then give her a uh from scratch pancake.

30:28But she don't like crispy edges.

30:30Oh, there you go. Just take this crispy edges off and let her taste it.

30:33Alright.

30:34I don't believe like you just get it. You supposed to be fat. I already know this. You are supposed to be fat, right? Then you used to be fat when you beat you. Yes. This is like your childhood. Like, you know, like you.

30:49Ain't nothing wrong with that, bruh. Ain't nothing wrong with that. That's what I'm saying. I just said it was. It's all about health. As long as I'm healthy, I'm good. I'm chilling. I can't believe you disrespecting you. You know what? I I gotta I gotta take stock about this friendship at this point. You think you're living a lie? You've never made a pancake from scratch. No. I should have never had this conversation with you. That's the problem. I am talking to you. I'm gonna try again. I'm gonna have I'm gonna try another conversation with you because you just failed me. Okay. Your opinion no longer matters. All right. The pizza. Okay. In the DMV. Uh-huh. Best pizza.

31:32You are picking things that I really, really think there is not much difference in what would be considered the best in that. He's not a connoisseur. You are talking about local pizza. He's not a connection. Local DMV pizza.

31:50You're not a connoisseur. DMV pizza.

31:51What's the pizza? What is that joint called, man? Um the joint that be having oxtails and stuff on it. Today's pizza. You had that before? I've had today's pizza. How is it? It's good. Was it better than Pisano's that we had today? Pisano's. Pisano's was actually the Pizano's was really good. I'll be honest. Was it better than it was better than Pisano's? Okay. It was better than Pisano's, but mainly, I mean, they just got different, you know, different flavors that OG pizza can't be stopped.

32:17Been consistent since day one. Lido's. I can't argue with you. Of course you can't. I can't argue with you. Lido's. Lido's Lido's will is consistent. You go no matter what Lido's, pizza gonna be the same. You're right. You're right.

32:33And they got the it's like their own little sauce. Yeah. Yeah, their piece is. It ain't nothing but sugar, though. Yeah, I was about to say their pizza is damn near pancakes. That's why you like it so much. Pizza pancakes. Hey, listen. But but but have you ever made a pizza before?

32:47Yes. From scratch. Yes. This. That dog. I've tried everything. Like anything that I've tried, I've mostly probably tried it from scratch.

32:57Was your pizza good?

32:58No.

32:58Mmm. I got one up on you.

33:00Oh, you made pizza from scratch? Bomb. This? Bomb. This? Bomb. No, hold on. Now you bought the line. You did this? You did this with the pizza? Or did you have dough already? And did you just put the sauce and cheese on there? Answer the question, Black. What did you say? Answer the question, Black.

33:20Answer the question, Black. It wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't. Um, I didn't do the dough from scratch.

33:26So you did not make it from scratch. I did. You lying, bro. You did make it like how you gonna make pizza from scratch and all you did was put pre-straded.

33:35First of all, what where did this terminology come from? What does making it from scratch mean? I know what it means, but like how does scratch have anything to do with it? What does scratch mean? Scratch means that you you are Let me see.

33:49You make up something. Let me see. I'm gonna make up something from scratch right now. Yeah, yeah. Scratch means like you are taking um primary ingredients and creating the the meal. You're taking ingredients in its rawest form.

34:08Not in its rawest form.

34:10Well, in a raw form. Yeah, so just not completely. So you knew you knew though that you weren't making it from scratch when I said that you buy the pizza dough. You knew right there. But I make the sauce.

34:22I make the sauce. I put the uh the different the different things when you say you made the sauce. The oil, the the oil, the the young stop lying, dog.

34:32When you said you made it, we be having pizza nights here. Oh, but stop.

34:36But we make we make our own pizza.

34:38You build a pizza. You are not making a pizza. Y'all, what are you doing? Why are you saying this, yo? Hold up though.

34:46Did you make a taco? Yes. From scratch? The corn? No, I've never made so you built the taco.

34:55Well, yeah.

34:57But you would you say you made the taco or you built it? From scratch? I didn't say that. I said, did you make a taco? Hold on, time out, VI. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Don't do that's not something you forget. I'm just thinking. That's not something you forget, VI. That's not something you forget. No, you did not make tortillas. I didn't make tortillas. I know you didn't. I know you wouldn't have been bragging all day. You got pictures in your phone and came in and I had to think about it. I got a taste for my homemade tortillas.

35:25No, you didn't make it. Nah, but no, I didn't. But it's all good. But we know you didn't make a piece from scratch and you couldn't see me. Matter of fact, we can have a piece of wool.

35:34We can have a piece of wool. Yeah, that's cool. We can have a piece of wool and listen, I make the piece of my way, you make the piece of your way, and then taste test.

35:43Who gonna taste it? King.

35:47King is not a good, he's not a good person to why is everybody that doesn't have your palate is not you know, I'm gonna tell you why he's level good.

35:56I'm gonna tell you why he's not good. Why is he not good? Because he's biased towards you. He biased. Nah, I don't think he's biased. He just wrote raised his hand in the last joint and said that when we talk about haters, he raised his head and said, I'm his number one hater. He said, You're okay. He's mine, he's he hates me. He be hating on me. What about your wife? Uh okay, but I don't think she's not like a connoisseur. You're making excuses for everybody. Royal. Yeah. Royal. I'm cool. No, no, no. No, no, not your daughter. Nobody. So I'm scared about it. You know she's biased. Los, Los. LO could do it. All right, let's go. LO could do it. All right, he the LO, if you're watching this. Ace, we can we can do all of them. Ace, Ace, an older brother. He don't care about nothing. And young, how many? I don't know how many people got older brothers. Yeah, Ace is the older brother who he still treats me like a little brother, yeah. What you mean? Young, he don't care about nothing I got going on, yeah. If I came to him and like, hey, ace, young, do a piece of test. I ain't doing no piece of test with you. Get that piece out of my face. But then he'll bite the piece and not give his opinion. And not give it, that's the type of big brother he is, yeah. I feel like he's committed to the big brother role for the rest of his days. That's just him, yeah. That's him, yeah. But I love it, y'all. Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm sure, but you don't have no older, you got older sister. No, I do have a. Oh, you do? I'm sorry. My bad. You got two.

37:20I got two.

37:21Yeah.

37:22I only I I haven't even talked to my other brother since the first since the since the last time we talked. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, yeah, my brother. Yeah, he he cooks uh lamb chops on the grill.

37:36Bomb. Oh, yeah. That's what you say. You want to try to be a better grillman? Yes. Oh, yeah. Let's talk about it.

37:43Let's talk about it. The steak. You try to you try to make me feel like I ain't do some amazing work when I didn't say that. Basically, that's what you said. Is you're doing the same thing you're doing now. You always try to break it down like what I did wasn't, you know what I'm saying, that great. Because I didn't do all of the steps that you think needs to be done in order to be considered great. All right, that's all I'm saying.

38:10If you're gonna make, I'm gonna ask them so we can be able to cut this and then we can ask the question. Well, is it your steak if someone else seasons, marinates, put it away, and then and the steak has this amazing flavor and you grill it, is it is it can you take responsibility for the good steak if someone else sees it?

38:36What is the percentage? What is the percentage then? If you're saying that you can't take credit for how much credit can you take?

38:44I think, you know, a good 50%.

38:46Oh, so you can take 50%.

38:47Maybe 40.

38:4840.

38:49Yeah, 40, 30. You gotta get the temperatures right. Maybe 40. I'll give you 45. You can't take 100. You took it like you was in there. I made this bomb steak. Yeah, dog, I was on. Nah, dog, you ain't even season it. You ain't, I mean, if you want to be a grill master, dog, you gotta get your seasonings together, bro. You gotta marinate, you gotta get that. And so when you do that, holla at me.

39:10So, so how can it get 40% when you can season a steak with anything, right? Anything. Yeah. I mean anything. A steak is gonna taste like the steak. The season is more so about the outside lead, and you know, there's the juices inside of it, but it's not gonna permeate it to a point where it used the word permeate. To a point where it takes over the entire steak, right? Well, no, no, it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen that way unless you're infusing it and you're sticking needles in it. So you just said it does happen. Um even then it doesn't happen. You just said it happens. Even then it doesn't fully happen. Steak gonna taste like steak. So the person, the person that's cooking it, you know what I'm saying? I feel like they deserve more credit than 50% because that part of it can make or break the steak. I agree. Right, so it should be more than 50%.

40:01Hey, listen, I completely vehemently disagree with this idea that you cannot get seasoning permeate steak.

40:09I just it's crazy how you just skipped over what I just said and just went to some and went to a battle that you thought you could win.

40:23Nah, I agree. I agree with you, bro. I agree with you that you know I'm saying that the grill master is important when making the steak. I agree with you, bro. And I'm proud of you for making the steak. I just you know, for part of my job and the same thing you do to me, as I just want more for you. I don't want you to rap talking about I made this steak. I just want you to get comfortable with the seasonings, too, bro.

40:40But if I say, okay, and you you can say just get comfortable with the seasoning, but if I come to you and say, young, I made this bomb ass steak yesterday. Yeah, I had to question you. You didn't have to, you didn't have to usually be like, oh yeah, oh that's tight. You get better on.

40:54I'm gonna tell you why. I'm telling you why, because I know you would do the exact same thing to me. So stop playing. But look, this is the thing though, dog. I wanted to talk to you about this. This is something that's been going on, it's a serious conversation, right? Okay, something that's been going on, and it's something that I've been thinking about, especially with imaging and just ideas and identity. Just you know, let me try that. So I hope I say this right. Men and women in relationship, it feels like when people break up that one person automatically has to be the villain or toxic. Yes. And a growing conversation that I think is coming along is that like a man or woman ain't this if you didn't it like if it didn't work out between y'all the person was this or the person was that you understand what I'm saying?

41:58I'm trying to not you you're trying to be politically correct. I am yeah, and I just say just say your intentions are good.

42:05What you're saying is that like is there room is there room for you dating someone or getting to know someone and then you you can get to know them, and then you just don't like them. There should be room for it.

42:21It should be, and then you just break up with them. It should be. It should be, but I mean, I I think that that depends though, you know what I'm saying? I think that that should be fairly like you know, there should be a time frame on that time. Like you can't do it for two years. You done stayed around, y'all lived together, y'all got a kid, you know what I'm saying? All of these type of things, and then you just like ah, I don't like you, I'm out. You didn't damn near build the whole life with this person. So I think that that it that that's kind of where it it takes a deeper level of conversation and a deeper level of man, that's an interesting concept.

43:07Yeah. Cause I'm sitting here in my mind, I'm like, I think a child in the mix does complicate things. Hell yeah, it does. It makes it a little bit interesting. Yeah, right? But interesting. That's an interesting word. Yeah. Because, you know, it's another life that you all have made together that you gotta necessarily raise and take care of. But I think if it was no child involved, yeah, and I stopped liking you because you uh I s I feel like I mean, I feel what you're saying. But I feel what you're saying too, because what does it mean to not like somebody?

43:49Yeah, and and and why does it take you to this point to be like you're fed up? Yeah, yeah, like there should be this is what I think about relationships. I think that we don't do a good enough job dating and vetting. Dating and vetting. Dating and vetting. We do not do a good enough job doing that. We the because when you're when you first start talking to somebody, it's all butterflies and good sex and laughs and high fives. You know what I'm saying? It's all of that. And then you fall in love with that, and that takes away from you asking the tough questions or talking about the tough topics. You know what I'm saying? Um, diving into somebody's history, all of these things, you know what I'm saying, that like jobs and stuff do at the beginning of the phase before they know anything about your personality. They want to know about your credit, they want to know about your your education, they want to know all of this stuff to see if you're able to, you know what I'm saying. But can you create that? I don't I don't think that you can create. I'm not saying that you do it like a job. You know, I'm just saying that I don't think that we ask the tough questions or we have the tough conversations in the beginning of relationships because it's so warm and fuzzy. You know what I'm saying? And you don't want to ruffle feathers or you don't want to, you know, you want to sit in this bliss.

45:13Yeah, I think that's the thing with attraction. I think that attraction to some degree can uh put friendship to the side. Yes. And that's what I don't necessarily think that it's that it's uh that I have to put you go you to go through an interview, yeah. But I need to, I think the biggest piece is establishing a friendship, yeah. Because I think that we go after things that have nothing to do with sustainability of a relationship, yeah. I think you have to want to be around a person, and I think that what society is rearing us to do is to push away friendship and attach to the artificial. How do they look? Are their nails done? Yeah, how is their hair done? Do they look good when they're taking pictures? Do that will they look good when they out with me? Not the idea of like, yo, am I gonna laugh with this person? Do it, can I stay with them for multiple days and I get frustrated? Like, do I want to hang out with them, not just to have intercourse, but like to like have fun, like play games? And you know what I'm saying? Do I like their families? Right? Do I like the way that they interact with their families and their and their parents or their aunts and uncles, right? How are they treating people who can't do nothing for them? Like what type of like person it is? And I think that we the world is like pushing us in this artificial way, like how tall are they? And like, is she fat or she, you know?

46:46Yeah, I think it's a mixture of the world and it's a mixture of um, you know, just bliss. It's just like, why do I want to do that heavy lifting when this is just so much fun? Why do I want to bring in conversations about you know your childhood or conversations about or why do I just think that slightly irritated me? Because it just slightly irritated me. Now, because you know, we having fun, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's cool. I'm about to get in them, you know what I'm saying? That slight irritation, you ain't tripping. You you just you're not gonna point it out and be like, and then if you do, it turns into a big argument. Like when we was we talked about this before on the podcast, where you know, you can't have like just regular disagreements, or we you may not even know how to have a more calm disagreement, you know. It's just a blow, it turns into a blow-up.

47:37Yeah, and I you know, I consider that a lot, like irritation and being irritated by folks, and you know my stance on that. Like my stance is I feel like we I really believe around this idea, especially. I can only speak from the male standpoint because I'm a man and I kind of grew up around men that I don't think they really like girls. I just I don't I you know I don't know how to slice it no other way. Um I've you know this idea that women are always getting on your nerves. Always like are you how? How and why is it always women who getting on your nerves?

48:30I can't I can't speak for them, you know what I'm saying? Because you're about to try though. I'm just saying that I think that the world has done us a disservice as it relates to that.

48:49I don't disagree. But I think that that's something that has to be I I'm not I don't disagree with the root cause, but I think that there is a conversation that needs to be had around the examination of the root cause and do actually doing something about it. I think that we get comfortable in the ignorance of it all and not do work around how to get around it because it's work.

49:17Yeah, but I think I like how you're moving. I think that the difficulty is that it also takes a level of uh reflection on multiple parties.

49:35What do you mean?

49:40That's the babble stuff right there.

49:42I I gotta say it, I'll let you live. I see what you're saying around this idea of like reflection and thinking about like how women are responding to Yeah, because I mean the the heavier weight can be on us.

49:54The heavier weight is on us, and I don't have a I I mean, dog, if if I just said that the world has given us has been has made a disservice to uh how we relate to women, you know what I'm saying?

50:05Oh, you're talking about the weight of change, yeah.

50:07Yeah, the weight of change, uh more of it is on us, okay, in my opinion. Okay, you know what I'm saying? But it goes back to that appreciation thing. Remember, we had a conversation about men just wanted to be be appreciated. So if we're on this end trying to work to do this change, then we want to feel appreciated, and we want some for a lack of better word. For a lack of better word.

50:32Oh, you better go find another one. Go find another one, go find another word, man.

50:40We we want we want some some work to be done on this side as well. True. And I that's where the argument is. The argument is, first of all, a lot of us don't believe that we have a lot of work to do. You know what I'm saying? On this side of the on this side of the fight, a lot of us don't think that we got a lot of work to do. When you say on this side, you're talking about men. Okay. Men. We don't think that we got a lot of work to do. And then on this side, you know, they don't think that they got work to do. And everybody's just blaming each other.

51:17Yeah. So what do you start?

51:21That's a tough one.

51:23Yeah, so my my idea. Okay, I'm listening. My idea is you start with self at all times.

51:27Oh, yeah.

51:28So I think the the con the conversation has to start with because I'm a man and because I I live in this identity frame, I think that we have a substantial and sizable amount of work to do around the recognition of emotions, around how we respond, around what triggers us to be upset and for what reasons. Um there is a very uh serious epidemic around like femininity and our desire not to want to be around feminine energy or feel like it's not necessarily should be in manhood. Yeah. Uh it's you know, is this over um over exaggeration of quote unquote masculinity, yeah, that I think hinders our ability to be softer and to be vulnerable and to even with one another. Being able to say things that are not um quote unquote plausible. I I mean, I get it, you know, I know how to be relaxed too, but I think that there's a real serious, and I think it impacts our ability to be softer with our children, to be softer with um, you know, our spouses, but I will say, I know that we're having a critical conversation, but there are plenty of men out there who are doing and exampling this. So I want to make sure that I'm very clear about that.

52:52You know what's crazy is that as you're saying this in my mind, because previously I said that we hold a uh we we hold more of the weight. Yeah, yeah. Right? But as you're saying this, it makes me realize that we handle, we we have even more weight than I previously thought. Like hearing you say all of that, and I just hear me out, hear me out, I'm gonna hear you out. And and to be honest with you, some of this has been driven in my brain from you. So everything that you just said, just imagine if men took sole responsibility and did all of those things that you just laid out, and we tried to improve on those things constantly, you know what I'm saying? From emotional intelligence to the way we communicate to um um just just protecting women in all facets of uh of what they desire. You know what I'm saying? We wouldn't really have resistance from women, no, so the weight, so it is majority of the weight on us because women that say that they did their part that we're talking talking about, they solved their weight part or whatever, there'll still be some men that's you know what I'm saying. But if men did their part to the fullest, the woman will I I think that the woman will be like, oh, okay. Nah, I don't know. And the reason why I say, oh, before you say that, okay. The reason why I'm saying that is because I I think in my household, and you know, um what I've learned is that I have to example stuff over and over and over and over and over again, you know what I'm saying, in order to get the to to get it in return. I remember like I always say this all the time. You made me um you you made me uh apologize for stuff that I ain't that I just ain't think I was wrong about, you know, and I did it over and over and over and over again to a point where she acknowledges it, she sees it, and from that point on, it taught her to, you know what I'm saying, take accountability of certain things and you know, and you know, so that's what I mean. If men just exampled it, then I think that the women would would follow behind it.

55:18I got a couple ideas about that. Like, I I don't want to like super disagree with you because I I don't know if I'm uh I don't know if I disagree. I just think that there is patriarchy and this idea of like um identity roles impacts us all. So even though softer men or men who are naturally comfortable with the expression of full emotions, they're not always seen as the most attractive. True. True. The ones that we see or women have been inundated with the ones, those men who are like show these very quote unquote stereotypical masculine qualities, yeah. This whole protect strong, uh uh, you're right, like that is what's to some degree attractive. So this this work is on both sides. This this vulnerable man who expresses themselves in ways that are um not typical of the stereotypical masculine man is something that you know that has to be explored because they too are impacted by the identity frames of so it's this idea of wanting one thing but being attracted to another. Yeah, so those things exist, and you know, there's there's there's other work to be done, so that's just something to think about. Like so it's not like a disagreement, yeah, but there's there's there's work and wait on that side too, yeah. So it's a great point, great point, you know. Um so you uh I know Jay-Z is your favorite rapper, yeah. And your second favorite rapper is Eminem?

57:10Yeah, you petty as I don't know what. I mean, am I right? I didn't know you're not right. No, you're not right. Oh, he's your second favorite lyricist. I didn't even say second favorite lyricist.

57:21I said it was your favorite lyricist. You said No, you you you you said Eminem.

57:25No, we were talking about you said top. Who who do you think is the top lyricist? Is what we was talking about. It wasn't favorite. Okay, you said Jay-Z. Well, it may have been favorite because you said I thought it was because you said no, that was a different conversation when you said I heavy. I thought it was heavy D. Yeah, heavy D.

57:41But is it is it Eminem or not?

57:43Jay is Eminem my top lyricist?

57:46Yeah.

57:46No. I would say Jay. I would say Drake. Okay, I would say I would say um um uh Nas. Well, I for real for real, uh uh J. Cole comes before Nas to me. All right, I'm gonna move on.

58:02Yeah, um Jay-Z got a song Regrets. You like that song?

58:07Hmm. Hmm.

58:09You know I go.

58:11Uh no, I know, I know uh what's your name on it? Cedric La Entertainer.

58:16She used to hold me, tell me that I was the best. Everything in this world I wanna, I can possess everything if one is all I ever get. And in order to survive, gotta learn and live with regrets.

58:31That's threats when I'm talking about the one that Cedric on. Yeah.

58:35Bro, you a 1960s RB dude, bro. That's threats, bro.

58:39I got you, but go ahead, regret. In order to survive, you gotta learn and live with regrets.

58:44Do you got regrets? Do you live with them? Do you feel like regrets like yes? Yeah, yes, plenty. Do you think it's healthy?

58:57I think it's healthy? I don't know if it's healthy from a mental standpoint, because what I what I battle with is the fact that if I have regrets, it makes it seem like I don't appreciate where I am right now.

59:24Okay.

59:25You know what I'm saying? And so that's the battle that I have.

59:28Battle you have.

59:28Yeah. Yeah. But I do have them. But if I changed anything about my life, then I wouldn't be where I am I right right now. I wouldn't have the life that I have. I probably wouldn't have the wife. I wouldn't have the son, I wouldn't have the daughter, you know what I'm saying?

59:43So So what's the answer?

59:45About what? Do I think it's healthy? I don't I I I don't I don't I I'm undecided.

59:53Okay.

59:55I'm undecided. Do you have regress?

1:00:00Yeah. Do you think it's healthy? Nah. Why? Because it's uh it's living in the past. And just like you just said, it helps to create who you are currently. But I think that that's something that you that uh you gotta work through because it if you have something I think that you're regretful for, it's probably something that you didn't necessarily want to do or something that you missed out on. Something that you did as a mistake or something that you wanted to do but didn't do because you didn't have confidence. Uh and I think that it should teach you a lesson around either going after what it is or not making that mistake again. And I think regret should be short-lived. Because then you gotta go after it. Oh, you gotta improve.

1:00:57I think that regrets are unhealthy if they, you know, if they if they paralyze you, yeah, definitely. But if you move on, and you know, like it says in order to in order to survive, you gotta learn to live with regrets. So living with regrets, uh it doesn't stop you. You know what I'm saying? As you I think that you get these lessons, you get these um uh this this knowledge, you know, you get this courage and all of that, and and and you move forward. But you're living with regrets. You still like, dang, what if I that's hard though.

1:01:32Yeah, regrets is that's it's tough. And I told myself, like on the other side, around like um like to stop missing out on life. Like that's that's that's that's a that's a point for me around doing what I think that I'm called to do and doing what I want to do. I'm trying my best to balls to the wall, like stop worrying so much about every other thing and just go after it, you know what I'm saying? But I thought about that. I I really love that Jay-Z song. It's one of my favorite songs. Cedric Entertainer is not on it. No, he's on threats, and we already talked about that. And that's your favorite rapper, bro. And I'm I'm upset that you mixed that up.

1:02:17But look, though, before you go into that, yeah, explain balls to the wall. I've never understood that. I never understood that.

1:02:25That's right. I love how you just brought that back. Yeah, like before we argue, I thought balls to the wall is just like I'm open up full throttle. I don't know what it means around balls to the wall, but I just like it's just like I am like young, full throttle, I'm wide open, clut get it, I'm out here and just just live.

1:02:42I know, I know what it means, but like it's a moniker. Is that what it is? But I'm just saying that normally, like, you know, uh these type of things represent something.

1:02:56Yeah, yeah.

1:02:57And I don't understand what balls to the wall.

1:03:00So let's change it. Let's say living life in a fast lane. That that that's more relative. I don't like it though.

1:03:06I don't either. It sounds corny. It's too long. Balls to the wall just sounds like it does, but you have no idea what that means. That means that could mean you you you look you you got your your mid section going up against the wall. Like, I don't understand that.

1:03:20That's crazy.

1:03:20But it is, but we don't know what it means. We don't know who made it up. Balls to the wall. All right, well, let me Google this real quick.

1:03:29Nah, don't do that, man. You can Google dog. Well, while you're Googling, I'm gonna explain Let's Argue. Okay. So for those if it's your first time watching the podcast or listen to the podcast, Let's Argue is uh here we have uh uh a group of Let's Argue cards, and what we do is uh Black and I pick a card, we read the card, whoever is reading the card, the opposite person has to choose a side, and then the other person has to choose the opposing side. It's not necessarily if we agree with this or not. It's just arguing for sport, I guess. I don't know.

1:04:03Okay, see, this is this is why why we Google stuff.

1:04:07Okay, but you don't know if that's factual, but go ahead.

1:04:10You would want to know, like, because you keep using good.

1:04:13I don't want to, I don't want to know. I want to live ignorant.

1:04:15Nah, don't this is a great this is a great joint. Balls to the wall means going at maximum speed, effort of power. Origin of the phrase, the expression comes from the aviation and military pilots, not anatomy. The controls, older aircraft throttles, had round knobs, balls on the top of their levers. Yeah, the wall, the wall refers to the front of the cockpit, the instrumental panel. The action is pushing the lever all the way forward to the wall, meant full acceleration. Thank you.

1:04:49Thank you, thank you, bruh. See? Thank you. That was tight. Now I'm really going balls to the wall. I'm turned up now, dog. I'm an aviation pilot, and I always wanted to learn how to fly. I thought you were doing that. That's why balls to the wall. That's why you did that. That was God.

1:05:08Well called an aviation school tomorrow.

1:05:12All right, bet. That's what we're gonna say. We're gonna go call it. Excuse me, I want to learn how to go balls to the wall. Ooh. Uh-oh. Ooh. I'ma skip it if I need to.

1:05:31Nah, but nah, it's not skippable. All right. It's wild, though. A guy finds out that his best friend is sleeping with his mother. Who should be more who should he be more mad at? Skip it. It's it's not your mother. Skip it. It's not your mother. It's that your mother. That's a crazy question to ask. The question is, who should he be more mad at?

1:05:51Bro, bro, that's a crazy question. That's a wild question.

1:05:55That I'm all of these questions the wild is crazy, bro. What do you mean it's asking too?

1:06:00He be mad as mad as his friends when I'm not gonna say because you you know I'm saying no, we're not doing it. I'm not talking about that. It's a wow question, bro.

1:06:17Okay. Alright. I don't know. I mean, you know, you say, all right, you gotta let me read it first. You still be against it. Yeah, I didn't stand it. A man tells his girl that labels ruin good things. It's the action that matters. She says without a label, there's no security. Now they're at a standstill. Who is right?

1:06:36Oh, he ain't trying to be as she ain't trying to be asund like this girl. Uh nah, labels do mean something. Labels mean something 100%. Uh if I don't call you my girl, you ain't my girl. And I'm not gonna treat you as such. If I don't call you my wife, you ain't my wife. And you don't get the yeah, yeah, I ain't gonna treat you as such. So that whole notion that, oh, nah, we married by baby, no, whatever. When you sign that paper, like that paper means something different. So yes, labels matter 100%. And if she's and if you if if I actually believe this, if he is not labeling you, then you ain't who you think you are. That's just no ifs, ands, or buts about that. Because men, men take ownership. And you know, though I don't believe that we own any humans, I don't. I don't believe I well let me keep it a bean. Hold on, let me let me I don't believe in owning humans, right? Like owning uh, you know, any woman, or I don't believe in anybody owning me, but I treat you like you mine. And I because I've been because you are connect, we're connected to each other. So I'm gonna treat you the same way I treat myself, and and like you know, the way I own myself, like I'm gonna treat you as such. Now you got free liberty to move around the world that you want to, but now you gonna be. I say that all the time, like I don't own you, but I'm gonna treat you like it. So yeah, yeah, labels mean something. You disagree?

1:08:24I mean to go against what you said, you said, you know, I don't own you, but I'm I'm gonna treat you like I do. So if that's the case, then that's all that matters. If I treat you as such, then that's what it is. I mean, I could put a label on it, I can say you this, you that, but the way I treat you should determine what you mean to me. Dang, that's from everything that I do. From you know, the way I treat you to the commitment, to the loyalty, to the protection, the providing, all of these things that you want. If I give you all of that, if I give you all of that, you know, I'm fully committed to you, and I'm just not cool with, you know, the the the the marriage or whatever, or signing a paper. I'm disagreeing, I don't like the court being in my business, all that type of stuff. Then, you know, yeah, I mean, what's good for one person don't mean it's good for everybody.

1:09:12All right, hey, listen, that's that's a pretty good decent argument. Oh, thank you, man. Yeah, give me some, dog. I like that. You know what I'm saying?

1:09:18I don't like that. I got like I gotta contort my body in order to give you five, and you just gotta just do this. Just put my hand out.

1:09:25Yeah, yeah, we're gonna switch it up on the next. Oh, we'll talk about that at the end. All right, all right. Boom. Shaka locker. Here comes the chief rocker. Did we answer this question before? Yeah, we answered that question before. That's crazy. Then I picked a card that we did before. Here's another one. Do men and women show loyalty differently? If so, how? Do men and women show loyalty differently.

1:10:10I say no. I think in the world of loyalty, like, I don't think that it has a gender. I think that what you expect from your mate is universal. So if I want you to, well, first of all, the the how you define loyalty is how you define loyalty. The way I'm thinking is that the person that I'm committed to is going out here and being uh solely committed to me and not uh uh doing anything that could jeopardize our relationship. Now, what that means is whatever me and her had a conversation about as far as loyalty goes. Yeah, but with that being said, like we both have to follow those rules. They don't the lines don't move just because you're a woman and I'm a man. It's all the same. Yeah, so what's your opinion on this?

1:11:14Yeah, women and men show love loyalty differently. Of course they do. You know, you're in a relationship, that's part that's the whole thing about a relationship is you're trying to find each other's love language. So if you're trying to investigate someone's love language, the way in which I show that I care for you and that I'm loyal to you is gonna look completely different in the way in which my my girl shows me loyalty. Like I might show loyalty through my ability to like you know, um show up for you on time, uh, you know, um, you know, provide in a way if if that's what the stereotypical man does. And my my woman might say, I want to make sure that I take care of you and prepare things for you. I'm loyal to you. I'm gonna show you like how much I can I might plan dates, so I might take you out of the country, right? A man might, you know, it it is just very different in the way in which we were read and the way in which we express loyalty. I think the key is though, is to find out and investigate how loyalty, how we want loyalty to be displayed in each relationship from a man to a woman, and then understand that love language and how loyalty shows up, but we definitely express it differently for sure.

1:12:21I hate you, young.

1:12:22Yeah, bruh. I do, young. I did a decent job.

1:12:24You you killed that one, huh?

1:12:25Yeah, yeah. I really, I really dislike you on that one. Good job for y'all. Great job, great job, good job. Hey man, listen, man. I've been I will say this to you, bruh. Yes, yes. I know this is the end of season one, yes, sir. And bruh, I just cannot thank you enough for you know um for so many things, and I'm trying I want to say it right. For one, just your dedication to the overall mission and vision of what we're trying to do and like pushing you know that forward, uh, to the and and the education and then the the the thoughtfulness about growing yourself to kind of grow the brand. Um because you know, all of this stuff in the backdrop, lights, cameras, you know, all of that is you, bruh. And so I think it it is such a it's such an honor and like I'm so grateful to have a brother like you like close to me, you know what I'm saying, to be able to see something and have those conversations, be like, we doing it, and this is what we're gonna do, and this is how we're gonna do it. And just like, bruh, I just can't thank you enough for, you know what I'm saying, just to kind of push along the way, you know what I mean. I'm just I'm sized about what's next and the impact that we're gonna be able to make, you know, in the lives of so many other people, man. So just bro, thank you, dog, like for real.

1:13:53Man, I I I truly appreciate that, man. And um I dog I I can't, you know, you already know what it is with us, man. Like you, I I I wanna say to you too, and I've I've said to this to you offline, I love how you are diving into it. You know what I'm saying? I love how you are trying to learn different things. Like, you know, you produce the whole show. You you write everything, and you know you come up with the topics. I I mean, just the commitment in itself, man. I uh it's just man, you know, every time we end up expressing each other, it's it's dog. I love you. You you you inspire me. Like you, this is one of the things that I am extremely, extremely impressed with and inspired by. You know what I'm saying? Motivated and inspired. You give your all to everything that you do. You do not do anything half-assed. Like you went into cycling and you murdered it. And I see the progression every class, I see the progression. And that's just how you are with everything, dog. So even with this, you came in with, you know, uh apprehension, you know, initially. And I ain't saying apprehension as if I don't want to do it. It was just an uncomfortable situation. And the way that you just, you know, just grabbed it, you know what I'm saying? It was like, dog, I'm I'm just gonna do it. I'm gonna learn, I'm gonna blah, blah, blah. Yeah, yeah, I'm so excited and honored to be able to go on this journey with you, dog.

1:15:31This is this is gonna be dope. My man. Yeah. And I feel like everything you just said, you know I want to say something back to it. Yeah, just leave it alone. Yeah.

1:15:39Nah, yeah, you said it first, yo. Yeah, I know, but we gotta try to keep out doing the compliments, yeah.

1:15:47Ah, yeah, season one. Season one. Uh, in a bag, dog, in a bag. We gonna, we actually about to go do some learning at a at a summit. We're gonna come back even more. We're gonna grow, we're gonna learn, we're gonna, you know what I'm saying, make impact because the the larger goal is to, you know, build community that is um, you know, built around positivity, impact, and growth. So, yeah.

1:16:14Y'all stay tuned, man. We got a lot in store. Um, we excited about the future. Um, we're gonna come back. Season two, baby. Yeah, season two, man. So yeah, love y'all. Play the music. Play the music.