My Son Got a FULL Ride to Morgan State! Black Culture Runs the World + 'High Value Man' Is Cap | Ep. 9

0:25Welcome to Black and Victorious podcast. I am black. And I'm Victorious. Muscle Victorious. Yes, you are. Yeah, buddy. Yeah, buddy. You got something up your sleeve. Like you've been gigging for this this time. Like I got some niggas up your chest.

0:42I ain't got nothing up my sleeve. You got some up them pants, though. Yeah, you got enough to put up them. Yeah, them Jones got the loose body.

0:50Loose body.

0:54Hey y'all love it, though.

0:56What's up, man? What's up with you, dog?

0:58Man, I'm chilling, man. I'm chilling, yeah. I feel real good, yeah.

1:01You should, young. You out here cycling the world, young. I am, yeah. In one little room.

1:06One little room.

1:07One little room. Just cycling the world, yeah.

1:09Turning up one room, dog.

1:10Like you the man, dog.

1:12Nah, you the man. You've been in every class, though.

1:14I I mean I'm forced to.

1:16You right? Yeah. You right. You gotta go. Every clash, yo. You've been there. I appreciate the support, yeah.

1:21Nah, dog.

1:21Nah, it means something. Dab me up. Dab me up in front of the plant, yeah. Boom. My man. Yeah, I appreciate that. How you how how things been going, man?

1:29It's been going good, man. Everything is a lot. Wally.

1:34For real?

1:35Yeah. Yeah, I stole that from you. But everything is a lot, dog. It's just a lot going on. Yeah.

1:41But it's a good a lot, though.

1:43Yes, yes. I don't want to sound like I am um ungrateful. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But when they say careful what you ask for, careful what you ask for.

1:54They say being able to be busy is a blessing.

1:59It is.

2:01It is. Yeah. Being able to be busy is a blessing.

2:03So sometimes when I also being able to not is a blessing.

2:08That is both things can be true at the exact same time. Yes. And I 100% agree with you. And I've been trying to work on not being busy as well. Like that's important.

2:17Like I feel like you though, you you like I feel like when you're not busy, you feel like guilty. Like there's something that you should be doing, and you you you get upset at yourself because you're not busy.

2:34I feel like you just passing all types of judgments on me, but I'm not passing judgment on you. Yeah, you you definitely just you're doing that. Yeah, yeah. So accept that. Okay. All right. Nah, I think just like with anything else, I think there's a process. I think most people you you deal with a process of like, you know, are you doing enough? And how and learning how to relax, right? Like learning how to just chill and let things be. So I'm I'm working on it, man. Yeah, you know. How long you been working on that? So having my own business, it makes it a little bit more difficult.

3:04But that's not what I asked you.

3:06I've been working on it for a minute.

3:08Oh. Have you got any kind of leeway? Any kind of yeah, yeah, yeah.

3:12I'm going, I'm going, you know what I'm saying? I'm going out the country in a few weeks. Okay. I'm going out of the state in a few weeks. You know what I'm saying? My tri my my my release is travel. You know what I'm saying? So okay. Yeah. I'll take that. So that's enough? That's enough for you?

3:26Um, I mean, it's it's manageable.

3:29Hey yeah. So yeah, I go, yeah. So I go, you know, this is my week, man. So I uh I look, you know, I have a well you you know, but I guess the people don't know. I drive, I have a you know, a little a Prius as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm never getting rid of that Prius, yeah.

3:52I I feel you.

3:53Yeah, that Prius is that that's my that's my joint.

3:55Yeah, I remember going on a road trip with you. We went from here to California on one tank of gas.

4:01Thirty dollars. 600 miles on a full tank, dog, 30. So everybody, yeah. You know what I'm saying? I got an electric vehicle, yeah, and I got the Prius. You know what I'm saying? The the hybrid. So, but anyway, you know, I've been driving my other vehicle for a uh, you know, pretty, you know, I've been driving it a lot lately, right? Uh, and so my Prius, one day I got pulled over. Coming into my neighborhood, I got pulled over.

4:27Never pulled you over in the in the priesting.

4:29That cop was hating, because I had my Prius tinted out, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Had the drunk tinted out, pretty copper pulled me over and told me they don't give me a ticket, he gave me a uh uh I had the repair order, right? Forgot all about it, yeah, because I'm driving my uh vehicle.

4:46Right.

4:47Whole time my my registration got suspended. Yeah, right? Suspend my registration. Registration got suspended. So now I gotta go get the tents off, but then I gotta go to the DMV, because I'm driving on the you know I mean, suspended tags to get my tags together. So I get my tents off and I got this form that gotta get filled out by the state police.

5:12So you gotta go to the to the to the coppers and get it.

5:16But it clearly states on the phone you can no longer drive this vehicle because you have a suspended tag. I didn't oh so in order for me to fix it, you had to drive. I supposed to tow it to the place to get the tents taken off, and then tow it, or well, you know what I mean, or tow back home and then you know get to the DMV no matter what, but you know good and well, bruh.

5:43Yeah, yeah.

5:44What you what do you know?

5:46That you didn't do any of that. You drove it, yes, and you probably was just driving around before you even took it.

5:53So I drove it to get the registration together. I go into the junk, I look at the state police officer, he in there, right? I could he say, I say, Yeah, I got this phone, man. I'm trying to get the you know, tags together, you know. I got the tents taken off. I just need to verify, take out the system. He looked at me, he said, Where's the vehicle?

6:14You know, you know that's when he had this leg in the young dog. I'm walking up the hair dog. I got so nervous so quick, yeah.

6:22I was like, uh, uh uh, it's outside, right? And he looked at me, he said, pull it around. I said, This about the chair. He about to impound my drink. Man, nah, he let me go though, y'all. He brought my drone, I brought my drone around, yeah. I was nervous about it though.

6:43The first thing is, and I told you this earlier today, I don't know if it was the day or not, but there has been two things that have been happening to me since we became, you know, like friends. Yeah. One is for whatever reason, I have been crying way more than that. And I'll be just like, you know what I'm saying, just all of a sudden I'm just crying. I'm just saying that, you know, I've been I've been definitely freely emotional. The other thing is that I always hated corporations because I felt like they take advantage of you. But you have let me see that like this entire world is just like capitalism to the fifth power. So I say that about them. Like they just trying to get money. But then I also say this I've been riding on, I've been riding dirty for years, though. I ain't talking about now, I'm talking about like in life, like riding on, like I got a rap that say, uh I'm still biting my nails, I often curse. And I've been known to drive a car without insurance to first. Ah, I remember that. In a bucket with no register with popo ahead of you. And I know I'm wrong because these tags belong on my other car. You just just out here reckless. Oh, I can't, I can't, I can't act like I've been, you know what I'm saying?

8:09Yeah, nah, I but you just but nah, you but you also just got married too, like 10 years ago. You was you doing that when you was married?

8:16When you wasn't I mean I don't yeah, my wife is my wife is the hood. So she she she was for certain things. Okay, and I think you do it out of though, let's let's be honest, like you do it out of necessity. Yes, it's not like you you want to do it, but you do it because financially things are just not like lining up. Yeah, you do it out of necessity, right? So yeah, and I ain't care.

8:44Yeah, wife ain't playing that.

8:47Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

8:48I told her my license, my registry, my tax was spending. She said, nah, you ain't driving that car that place. I was like, all right, no problem. Yeah, yeah. My wife would be like, be careful. Be careful, take the back roads. I was I was about to drive the the uh the Prius. I was like, I had to go get some. I was gonna try to take the 10 off myself. I tried, I attempted. It did, it didn't work out. Yeah, so I was about to go get the jump in the Prius. She was like, Are you gonna drive that car when you just told me the tags were suspended? I was like, she's like, get drive. And I was like, all right, bet.

9:22Yeah, I mean, you got two two cars, and I don't understand why drive the Prius, though. That's that's crazy. Like, you got options. You you chose to be.

9:32I was gonna choose, but I I chose the I made the right decision. Okay, yeah, it was was dog. So stop. Let's not even do that, yeah. Yeah, talking about driving. Last road trip I went on, young, was uh I went to um well let me ask you, what's the uh you when is the last concert you've been to? I know you, you know what I'm saying, you be needing seats. You won't go nowhere. I know you won't do young. Why did you say that to me, yeah? What why did you say that you no longer you can't you won't go to festivals?

10:01I won't go to festivals.

10:02Yeah, that yeah, that's old, yeah.

10:03I mean, you call it what you want. It's cool.

10:05We're gonna talk a little bit about that. But what's the last concert you've been to?

10:08I don't know. It's been I can't even remember the last concert that I've been to. I'm trying to think. Like, I I don't know. Oh, oh, Usher.

10:17The drone in Vegas?

10:18Yeah, no. We went to we went to Minnesota.

10:23Oh, okay.

10:24To see Usher. I think that was her birthday last year. Oh, all right, that's not too long ago. This was like November.

10:34You don't know her birthday, Mike?

10:35I do, but I don't know. Nah, oh man. Hey, let's see. Let's make sure we flash that.

10:41Let's not let me ask my wife, man. Man, yeah, you lunching, dog, right here on but on air. You lunching. Don't do that. Nah, you just did see yourself. Don't do that. I went to flo I went to go, you know, Florida tree is back together.

10:54Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Florida tree was they was like that.

10:56Young, they show was like that.

10:58Didn't they have a beef or something?

11:00Like, yeah, they was they had a dispute. They was yeah, for a few for a an a large amount of years, yeah. So they had like a reunion tour, and you know they was real big in Philly. I don't know if you knew that. I didn't, yeah, but they was like they got their little like sense. Why?

11:17Because Philly liked the the the invention of Neo So, yeah, yeah, okay.

11:22All right, so yeah, we went to Philly to go see him, okay. And when I was in when the concert was dope, flowers did a great job, but when I was in the concert, I realized I was like young, you know, it was full of black people, right? And you know, Philly is like two and a half hours north, yeah, young, and I realized I was like, Philly is a completely different culture, yes, Baltimore is a completely different culture, 45 minutes north, yes, completely different culture, Richmond, completely different culture, and so one of the things that I think about is I'm like, is that just a black thing? Hmm, that's a great question. You know how we can go? That's a great question. We got different slang, yeah, we got different accents, we eat different foods, we we listen to different music. Wow, 45 minutes north. I think that black people there's a universal culture that we exist in, but then they're very specific 45 minutes an hour away is a completely different. Like we don't know, they from Philly, they from Baltimore, they're from DC.

12:33Well, yeah, I so I think because we are so creative. You know what I'm saying? When it comes to fashion, when it comes to music, when it comes, and we're influenced by our peers, and it just happens to be in these pockets, and so I think that that's what it is. Like, you know, as far as clothing goes, somebody in New York will start something, and then everybody in New York will like it and be like, oh yeah, I'm a you know, and then that it that happens in all of these different locations. Just because I I just base it off of us being so creative.

13:11So are we the only group of people that are creative? Well, in that way, do like do you believe that it exists in with like if somebody who was let's say some some white person from who grew up in Prince George's County or grew up in Montgomery County or Anoron or whatever, and they went to Philadelphia and they was interacting with some white people who live in Philadelphia, would they be able to have very like distinct?

13:39I think so, because like for instance, the Boston, the way the Boston people talk is different. Yeah, Boston's a little far though. Yeah, but I'm just saying, Boston, Boston, yeah, but fit how far how far you hear my Boston action? I that wasn't really one like the tribe, but it just didn't seem like the right one. Do you think that Boston is how far is Boston from Philly? Probably like two hours, two, three hours. Okay, so that's what I'm saying. So in Boston, they talk different than people in Philadelphia.

14:16They do, I would guess. Yeah.

14:18I don't know if Philadelphia talk different than the people in New Jersey.

14:23Yeah, and I think the thing is that they're very clear, I do know that they have an accent. Like Jersey got an accent, Boston got a very distinct accent. But the thing is, is what I think what I'm thinking about is the the very clear distinction. For example, floetry during the break, they start playing music that was Philly. Philly. Yeah. Like, oh, this Philly music. Yeah, like you know what I'm saying? Like, do Boston got Boston music? Do you know what I'm saying? Like, oh but you talking about white people, yeah. I don't think so. That's what I'm saying. That just made us even tighter. Like, what the hell what is that about?

15:06Oh, we like that. It's just plain and simple. We don't even think we we ain't even trying. No, we never try. It's just in us, and that's what I'm saying. I'm telling you, it's just it's just in us. We can take anything and make it just season it on it. Just season it.

15:29Yeah, yeah. So anything. Yeah, so when I was in a concert and they start playing like this, like Philly, you know what I'm saying? Like this Philly music, I was sitting there and I felt I was like mesmerized.

15:42Okay.

15:43And like the beauty of who we are, and like just being just how amazing we are, and not even because sometimes you can forget because you uh you are of the culture, yes, and so because it's part, it's in you, you just like you know, you immerse, but I actually like kind of I felt like I stepped out of my body for a second and just observed.

16:03But if you even step further back, you know, from that, like young, our culture runs the world.

16:10Oh, 100%.

16:12And and and it's you don't really realize that because and I'm just not saying you, I'm just talking about us in general. I don't think that we realize that.

16:21Well, that's another conversation. So traveling, I think that's a distinction because it is a very specific African American thing, right? The the nuance of being an African American is the culture that permeates around around the globe. And so the question is, why do you think that is? Specifically African Americans, because there's African people in the Caribbean, there's African people in South America, African people in Europe, African people in Africa.

16:58Like, well, one thing is that I think that we are uh revered by other people, you know what I'm saying? Like the the United States in general, even though we live here and we think that it is what it is. Yeah, people outside of here, they they they hold it in high regard, right? And so with that being said, a lot of our stuff is also held in high regard. Music, fashion, like all of that is is held at this, you know, this level to that we probably just wave off because we're here. But if we went to like I saw this youngin', um, it's this youngin' in Africa who has all of these, like he finds like garbage shoes, like they made of rubber. I think, I think he designs them. You know what I'm saying? And he always shows off the shoes first. The shoes can be made out of rubber, out of cans, out of whatever, and then he'll do like an Instagram post where he'll throw the shoes down, and then automatically he'll have on the outfit. When I tell you, the outfits be like that, and all of them are made of trash or made of like some kind of something that he found. You know what I'm saying? But when I look at that, I know that he was influenced by you know the the fashion here. He just did it his own way, you know what I'm saying?

18:26Yeah, and but I think that's the question that I'm asking is that I think that culture, everybody has a culture. They just there's a you know, I don't think that everyone has a culture.

18:37I don't think that everyone has a culture. Who doesn't have a culture? I don't think white people actually, white is not a culture.

18:48You're gonna have to explain this.

18:52European would be a culture, correct?

18:56Well, the yeah, I think that there's various cultures within being like European culture, yeah.

19:02European culture white people in America is so far removed from it that their culture is just American. And what's American culture? American culture is just a whole bunch of you know what I'm saying? What different, different, like American culture is actually black culture, just stolen, you know what I'm saying? Stolen black culture. Yeah, I don't know, like, okay, define culture. And that'll help me, that'll help me better understand what you're saying.

19:37Yeah, culture is a way of life, it's the way in which you move, the your operation, your values, norms, and standards. You know, your culture is your way of life. It's how you move. So I think by default, everyone has a culture. Like everyone has a way in which they exist and do things. And everybody's culture, I think a lot of times, like culture is influenced by other, like I think that's what you're saying. Like, culture is influenced by other cultures. But what I think the distinction of what I was trying to ask is African American culture specifically has permeated other cultures around the world, and our culture is revered and celebrated and tried to be mimicked and mocked across the world.

20:23Yes.

20:24Um, I remember going to Egypt, and uh and the the Egypt Egyptian dude was trying to like be my friend and trying to so he was like calling me the like said the N-word, and I was like, hold on, cuz like that's not what you what you say or how you interact. But they see it and they like and it's attractive to them. And so that is a question that I've always asked myself is like, what is it about us that is so um so captivating to the rest of the world? And I think that when I when I consider it, I think it is attached to our struggle and attached to our victory of freedom. That's what I think that, and I think that our fight and our and our legacy around gaining our freedom and also speaking truth to power in this country has created a level of reverence that people across the globe have taken on and followed since. Because what I've what I've realized about being in African American history and us freeing ourselves from the institution of chattel slavery, I think helped to set the ground and then the foundation for freedom all across the globe. And so that's what I think has, and and when we started to gain freedom, like folks like Malcolm Max and all these other people were traveling out to other places.

21:42Um And we were like the the the leader in trying to free us and uplift us in general, yeah.

21:51And I also think that we are one of the only groups of people. This this is I I think separates our culture from as it relates to the fight. Is that we grew, we our identity was formed amongst those who were oppressing us.

22:09Yes.

22:09So when you go to places like, you know, Jamaica or St. Thomas or all these other places that had slavery or Brazil, they were the majority. Like black people were the majority in these places.

22:22Okay.

22:22Even when there was slavery, they still were the majority. In this country, we're the minority. We we were the minority.

22:29Yeah.

22:29And we were, you know, uh creating a culture within a culture that was oppressing us.

22:35Yes.

22:35And still are.

22:36Yes.

22:36Right. And I think that is the distinction that I think of African people in this. And I don't know. That's that's my I could be wrong, but that is, you know.

22:45I think it's I think it's a mixture of all of that. You know what I'm saying? I I I think that all of it is is valid. Um in not this argument, but in this conversation. Yeah. I think it's it's it's just a lot. Yeah. Like we've endured a lot, we've overcame a lot, we've introduced a lot, we've created a lot. You know, it's just a it's just a lot.

23:09And it's so tight though. Yeah, it's so tight. So our ability to like I always say like the thing that they will never take from me is my joy. So oppression, trying to, you know, put all of this stuff on TV to make it me feel make us feel like our people are, you know, evil and all these other things, like you will never get me to believe the worst in myself or the worst in my people. And I think that is our greatest defense against the terror. So I'll be honest, man.

23:41Lately, I've been telling myself that I gotta get off of like social media because I look at stuff so much that now it permeates my timeline. You know what I'm saying? And so now I just see just I just see so much hatred, you know what I'm saying? So much it's just it's just it's just overwhelming, man. And it and it makes me it really gives me um like my belief in society just fades. And I'm not talking about black society, of course. You know, I'm just talking about America in general. Like it just lets me know, like, damn, dog, they really don't give a fuck about us.

24:28Yeah, I think well, this is true, right? I well, I don't even know. I think they care about and they understand that power. So I use the example all the time, and you might have heard this example before, that you don't oppress people that you know that you're better than. Yeah, and so anytime that I see oppression, I'm like, oh, you you scared, you're nervous. Like you, you know about our excellence and our dominance and what we're capable of. And we just talked a little bit about that, like as it relates to culture. And so for me, it's this idea that one, I don't, I'm I'm very conscious of what I can like consuming, how much we consume it, what we consume it, and for what reasons are we consuming it. Because you have to in this country and in this world, dog, you have to be able to control your brain. Because they are trying to control that joint every turn, yeah. So yeah, I don't play around with the news, I don't watch it, I don't play. I'm trying to train my algorithm. Like, I don't play around with that, dog.

25:24Yeah, I just said that I gotta I gotta retrain my algorithm because it's it's ridiculous. It's hatred. What you seeing, dog? I mean, what I see is like the Chud the Builder dude. Who? Oh, see, you don't even know. All right, it's a white dude named Chud the Builder, right? This Batman goes around and antagonizes black people, basically calling them niggas to their face. He has a gun and he has mace. And he and then when a black person says something, he was like, Oh, you chimping out. You chimping out, you chimping out. So, you know, he goes to these different neighborhoods and stuff.

26:03Oh man, I should have turned my phone off, dog, because I, you know that you know the journal be listening, so I don't wanted to come up with my algorithm.

26:10But this one come up so so so I think it was today or yesterday, or one one of these days, he somebody testing him because he's been doing this for a minute. You know what I'm saying? So now everybody's like, how is this dude surviving? Like, how's he going to the hood and doing all of this? Oh, he in the hood too? He yeah, he go he go places with black people at. You know what I'm saying? I don't think he's going like to the hood hood, but he goes to like Silver Spring. How black people responding? I mean, he's filming it, so they uh they say stuff, but no one has really like you know, did anything because he's filming and it's apparent that he has some kind of weapon on him, you know what I'm saying? It's apparent. And so a couple of days ago, he he did it, and the dude whooped him, was starting to whoop him, pulled out a gun and shot the dude. And then I think while he was shooting the dude, he accidentally shot himself too. And so now he uh he's locked up for like attempted murder, you know what I'm saying? But this has been going on for a minute. So I see that, I see uh like just what they're doing with the uh gerrymandering, you know what I'm saying? Oh, with the uh yeah, like like it's just and I think I had this conversation with you before, like it's just it is just so open, and your your journey's it's always been it's always been dog to me in modern day. I've never seen it like this blatant, like these bamers is in your face, like you a nigga. I'm taking your rights, I'm taking your rights, and ain't nothing you can do about it.

27:53So, yeah, I understand. I I can understand like if that's if it's like shocking to you, you know what I'm saying? Like, I get it, it's extremely shocking. Yeah, they they been on this time, bro. Like the the country, man. This they've been on it. Capitalism born off the backs of blacks, white folks relax, live off the kickback. Like, that's you know what I'm saying? That has been the story of this country. And I'm not that's dead prez quote, by the way. But like, you know what I'm saying? That's the story of this country, man. And so I'm not surprised when I'm not surprised at all. And so my thing is just like we had that conversation the other day, is I think yeah, the outcast quote you want to re-nation, gotta start from your cone. That's big boy. Like, so I think I'm I'm real big on local.

28:42Yeah, I am too. You know what I'm saying? I am too, but I'm I mean, I don't mean that you know you did, I know, but it's okay. I've been doing pretty good though. You have, I've been doing pretty good. I've been late, you've been getting better, better. So just better. It's not it's not I've been doing good, no, better.

29:00Yeah, the the bars, the bars is hot, and for those who don't know, the bama cut me off like for the first 10 episodes. But he's trying to why you going back? Let's move forward. We just talked about this. Shout out young, uh young. I'm about to be a I'm about to be a father. You are a father. Nah, I'm about let's see. You cut me off. See what I'm saying? I'm about to be a father with a son who has graduated high school. My son is about to graduate from high school, man, tomorrow. That's tight. So by the time this episode comes out, he would have been a he's a graduating senior, and we're about to be empty nested. How you feel? Bruh, I feel I feel accomplished. Good word. Yeah, I feel proud of him. Um, and I feel a sense of uh gratitude for my community who helped raise him. Yeah, I'm scissed, bruh.

30:02That's dope. You should be, huh?

30:04Yeah, yeah. I'm I'm like, yeah, man. My man, and he's going to Morgan.

30:09Yeah, I know that sized you.

30:11And he got, and I ain't gonna pay for college. He got four rounds.

30:16I'm telling you, I got Royal applying for college that for scholarships right now.

30:20Yeah, yeah. I'm Scythe. That's I'm Scythe. And he's gonna be major in elementary education. That's tough. Like, I man, I'm like, I'm just you know, I'm on the high a little bit right now. And I'm I'm super proud of him, super proud of the work he's been doing. Uh super proud of his jiu jitsu career.

30:37How is that they be making the nah?

30:43It's more this for real, they don't make noises, not no hot chip. But what kind of what kind of noises they make? So it's more than struggling.

30:55Oh, this is the hilarious part. But they don't like at their practices, they don't talk, they don't make no noise. Nobody makes nobody's no no noise. They just like just a peaceful wrestle. It's a solid murder. They all try to kill each other, but silently, but silently.

31:13This is this is a goddamn assassin.

31:15Exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah. So proud of my man, dog. That's tight. Shout out to King. Yeah, shout out to King. And shout out to my my nephew, a Johnny, too. Yeah, shout out to Johnny. He he he's not he's he's not graduating. He's not graduating, but he honor society, yeah, you know what I'm saying. And I'm shouting to Johnny out for a very specific reason. Why he is probably our most loyal viewer. Shout out to a Johnny man, yeah. Shout out. I didn't know that. One of the young shout my man, he's one of the most loyal viewers, dog. A Johnny, the junk drop, soon as the episodes drop, he on it. That's tight. My man, yeah. That just sized me, man. Psyches me too. I had to make sure, yeah, because he be like, yeah, episode drop on Tuesday, right? He be sending me Tuesday, right?

32:01I'm like, yeah, he like, ah, you know when you see somebody and like you know, Youngin is uh what's the word I'm looking for? He is like he he has broad shoulders and young. He stands like a a king. Yeah, just be that dude, yeah.

32:24A Johnny a real one. He and he a he a uh you know he he he real he moving silence. Yeah you know what I'm saying? Oh my man. Okay, my man.

32:48Nah, nah, you don't need to cut it off. Oh, okay. Oh yeah, I'm just cutting it off. Yeah, Johnny liked that though, yeah.

32:56Yeah, yeah, I'm super like that. That's my man, yeah. You know, a Johnny was one of the one of my nephews who made me feel like an elder. How? How is that? He was very close to King's age, and he has always to some degree made me feel like an uncle. Like, and I think the uncle relationship is a little bit different than the father relationship. Yes, if I feel like the uncle relationship, there's a level of relationship and listening and communication that's there that you can sometimes lose when you are the authoritarian as a as a father. Correct. You know what I'm saying? And so it's funny. I was I was shaving today when I was uh you know shaving my my head.

33:56Yeah, getting the balls straight. Yeah, yeah.

33:58What you say? Getting the bald, the bald head, yeah, straight. Yeah, bald head, my beard, my chest hair, you know what I'm saying?

34:06And I was just talking about your face, I mean your beard and stuff. We didn't need to talk about your face.

34:14No, but this this is important, this is part of it. All right, and so I was shaving, um, and I you know, I looked down at the hair on the sink, and I was like, wow, it's gray. Like the hair that I'm looking at is a mixture of like gray and black hair. And I turned around, I was like, dog, I'm aging. Yes, you know what I'm saying? Fast. Well, well, yes, fast, or however you want to say it, but the process of aging is one of those things I don't think that we have a very constructive conversation about often.

34:50Yes, I agree. I think that it's frowned upon. Yeah, I think that it's considered uh uh uh I don't know. It's like that like you're disconnected or something. I don't know. Like I don't feel my age at all. What do you mean by that? I think we we've had this conversation before when I was their age and what I thought a 50-year-old or 40-year-old was does not feel like what I thought or what I saw back then. And I think even like even today, like if you look at 50 and 40 year olds back in the 70s, the 80s, and the 90s, they didn't look like this.

35:36I think it was the exposure, I think it was the camera exposure, dog. It's something was wrong with their cameras.

35:40Nah, young, nah, they ain't look like this, young.

35:43They ain't look like you looked like they didn't look like that. But do you not want to look? What with what what are you trying to go for?

35:50I'm not trying to go for for anything. It's just that I feel, for instance, clothing-wise, uh-huh. You know, I don't Oh, this is about to be funny. I don't, I don't want to. I want to wear what I want to wear. I want to feel good in what I wear. So at our age, for instance, we grew up in a Jordan era or, you know, Nike and Tennis Shoe era, you know, and so why when you get older, it seems like they expect you not to do that anymore. You know what I'm saying? They expect it's just like hip-hop in my in my like it's like you're not supposed to be. I mean, I think the world frowned. I think that a good amount of people frown upon it.

36:35Yeah, and so that's what I'm I think that's the investigation piece, right? Okay. And the investigation of why people necessarily don't particularly like aging. It's this conversation around what what are what is the world saying and who dictates like people your level of um does it mean that your opinion matters less? Does it mean that you are not as cool? Does it mean that you are not um as like hip? Like what is it? Feels like oftentimes that that youth is the thing that is celebrated. It is. Um, and I think that we we can buy into that. Like we can start to buy into this, this, this idea that we want to stay forever young. And I'm like, I don't, you know, when I was shaving and it came to me, it hit me, I'm like, then how do people know what a wisdom is? If we're all, you know, this this this distinction of like gray in my beard and and balding and like gray on my chest or whatever it like, gray hair, or you know, I mean gray hair or wrinkles under my eyes, whatever it is, it is a distinction of, you know, you've been here for a little bit, which means that you should know something, which means if you have a nephew or a young person, they should be able to know, and that should come with some level of experience, some level of expertise, some level of um wisdom that you can give. And I think that's something that we should be honoring and valuing, and I think that's something that we lost because in our in our historical traditions, that was you know, the elders were revered.

38:14Yes, but I also think that we are an age group, or we are uh we we are at it's funny that we're at an age with our peers that wants to do like what they used to be able to do. There we go. And so like no one really the wisdom is they they know they have wisdom and everything, but they don't want to be, of course, they want to give back, yeah, but they also want to do, you know what I'm saying? Like they still live in dreams, you know. Like, yeah, look at me. I'm 50 plus, and no, but I think that's I don't know if living dreams is a young thing, yeah. But I think that that's what the world has made it out to be. Like when you get older, it's your time to shut it down, you know what I'm saying? Okay, yeah, it's your time to shut it down, and yeah, it's like they say everything's a young man's sport or a young person's sport, and so it's like you get aged out of certain things, like even hip-hop, for instance, like older rappers are just starting to feel comfortable with making new music, and when they were making music, they were making music for the young people because they were still trying to live those days.

39:38And I'm like, you know, and I think that's a distinction, I think that's a bigger conversation around like this aging, and I also think it's a distinction around like manhood and like growth and development, yeah. That this idea that you know, I was somewhere and somebody said, uh, you know, the conversations you have and you like you you you brown nosing. Like somebody said something about the conversations that we have on joint. It's like, yeah.

40:06Somebody said you, you was brown nosing.

40:08Well, it don't matter. You can say me.

40:10I just wanted to I can I'm not just saying you like I chose you. I'm just saying that he told he said you were brown nosing.

40:16No, it was like it was it was well okay, whatever. But the conversation is that the thought what came to my mind was oh, like that's a young mind. That's a young even thought to have, like, like I'm 40 something. Like, that's not even a the a thought in my head, but if you can get stuck, you sometimes you can we can get stuck in in a time warp, like young. I'm still you know, have the beliefs that I had when I was 20. Yeah, and I think part of like when you get older and you turn into like an adult, like is this you gotta welcome this the newness in. Like you was talking about the other the last time we was on the uh pod. You were talking about uh you ain't got the beads, you ain't beat it no more. You ain't beat it up no more. Yeah, you was you felt like you was trying to be funny. Nah, I'm just saying you was, but I mean it is, but the concept and the idea that like we gotta be who we were, like we can't the flexibility of changing and being different and being flexible is like a thing that's frowned upon. We want people to stay exactly where they were, and I'm like, young, that's part of like growing older.

41:21Yeah, I don't necessarily think that that's true. I think that people expect you to change. I just think that it all depends on the person and if they're comfortable with the change. Like it's just some people, some some people that don't want to get older. You know what I'm saying? It's not really about what other people are thinking, it's about what makes them feel good, and probably what makes them feel good is you know to present as young as possible, yeah. You know, so I mean, even me, we talking about gray, like look, you see all this? My wife told me that she she likes the gray, yeah. And I can't say that I do, you know, and I I really want to diet, yeah. But I don't know, I mean, I'm accepting change, but at the same time, you know, I I wanna I I would like to present a certain way, you know, in certain times. And that doesn't mean that I want to be young, exactly, it's just a preference, yeah.

42:22But I think that's the conversation that what you're what you're explaining is a very critical conversation about what you desire, what you like in yourself, yeah, and also what your partner likes. You know what I mean? And that's that that conversation. But what I think is that when we grow older, we're not having critical and complex, we don't give ourselves opportunity to think about what we're feeling and experiencing. Like, because when I you know, when I went bald, it was like it was a process of me having to get comfortable with like, oh, it's not like I ain't got here no more, I ain't got hair up there no more. And now, like this idea of getting comfortable in the this this this new victorious that that comes along with that, you know what I'm saying? And I don't think that we have and so if you don't get comfortable quick, you can have a you know at the back of your head on a plateau, yeah, holding on for no reason, you know what I'm saying? So I think that that's part of I think the conversation too is that as we grow older, we gotta also be thinking about the benefits of of aging.

43:23What's the what's the what's the benefits of aging besides like wisdom? Yeah.

43:28I'm just asking. I think I'm trying to ask for for people. So I think aging, uh, but I think wisdom, I think when you when you are uh when you're aging, you make a little bit more cash. You you that's true, you get a little bit more stable. That's true too. Uh you have learned from a extreme amount of your mistakes, and you're making more quality decisions. That's true when you are comfortable in the aging. Um you also get the AARP card.

43:58Um I don't even know that. I I've been sitting there because I don't even know what that does.

44:02I know you got it. I ain't got mine yet. I know you had your. That's why I said you can refer people. I'm not old enough. I'm not old enough. I know you got the biggest.

44:21Insurance rates go down. Yeah, well, I get a free. I get a I get a free breakfast. If you sign on, I get a free breakfast.

44:29I'm a sign on, dog. I know. And yeah, that's funny, young. You know what's funny? You're talking about breakfast. See, this comes with age. Yeah. What's your this is about to be a weird question.

44:43Yes, I know.

44:44It's gonna be a weird question. I'm waiting. What is your favorite herb? Herb. Herb. Weed. No. Basil? Basil. Basil is the most flexible herb there is. So a question. I love basil, yeah.

45:06Alright, is basil hot?

45:08It can be. No, no, no. It can be regular or it can be sweet.

45:14Can't be hot. So when you get like um, what is that? Thai chili sweet basil fry rice? Well, not sweet basil. When I get like Thai basil fry rice? Yeah, it be hot. Because they put peppers in it. But it's not the basil. No, it's the no, it's not the basil. The basil give you that. You don't even know what basil tastes like. Who don't know what basil tastes like? I don't know what basil tastes like. Yeah, don't speak for yourself. I don't know what basil tastes like. I don't know, like, like I don't have uh actually I don't like that's what I'm saying. That's probably why I'm not great at cooking.

45:45Young, basil tastes like basil.

45:48I mean, there's parsley tastes like parsley. Yeah.

45:51Broccoli tastes like what? You know what parsley tastes like? Parsley. Do you can you describe it?

45:57No, just like you can't describe basil. I can describe basil. You just said basil tastes like basil. I was playing. All right, so what basil tastes like?

46:10Tastes like the feels of Asia.

46:15How do you you've never tasted the feels of Asia?

46:18How do you know? It's it's a sweetness, like sweet basil that got a hint of sweetness with a little kick of um nothing. I can't describe it. But you could put basil in lemonade. You ever had basil lemonade? You could put basil in sandwiches. You could put I don't think I've ever had basil in a sandwich. You ain't lived.

46:44Oh my god, dog.

46:47You're not gonna you're not gonna dog, you're not gonna have me believe that basil is this whole secret ingredient that makes anything better. Young basil does anything it wants to do.

46:59It can make it better. Young, you can put basil in fried rice. You could put basil on your chicken, you could put basil on fish, you could put basil in lemonade, but come on flexibility. You can put basil in ice cream, bruh. Ice cream, young, you could put basil ice cream of you could put basil in ice cream, bruh. It can go in anything. Basil, and this is what I'm talking about with aging. You didn't eat basil when you was 10. You didn't eat basil when you was a teenager. I didn't. Basil is an adult food. You get basil, young. Oh my god, yeah. I love basil.

47:42What else is an adult food? That's a that's an interesting thing. What else is an adult food? And I want to point out something. So you said uh uh you said basil, bruh. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's that's that's that's young. Basil bruh? No, bruh. You you you ain't been saying bruh all your life.

48:02What you mean?

48:03Just what I said, like next.

48:06My my surname in school was Brother Victorious. Brother is different than bruh. But you call me bruh victorious. I'm lying. You exactly that was uh when I said it, bruh victorious.

48:18Don't you ever disrespect me? That's what I'm saying.

48:21Like, you know what I'm saying? That that's influenced by the youngest. It's cool, it's cool if it is though. Like, you know, hopefully we we give them something that you know. Yeah, but nah, young. Would you just ask me though? I asked you uh what is what is another like grown adult food, adult food, um adult food.

48:40Well, I tell you, the kids, I don't know why they're eating it now. Uh, I feel like seafood crabs is an adult food. Nah. Young. When you was when you was at the cookout, you could just go get crabs and shrimp.

48:51I mean, I I would have it. Like they would they would let me have my my parents.

48:56That's why.

48:57But what I'm saying is I'm talking about you actually uh um you like it's now something that you like to eat. Like right now, for instance, basil is something that you desire. Yes, I want something right now, and when you got older, that's when that desire came. Yeah, because I didn't even know it existed, right? But back in the day, like I would desire crabs or shrimp or whatever, but they just wouldn't give it to me because it's an adult food. I know, but I'm too expensive. So okay, yes. So, what about like um artichoke?

49:32I I don't eat artichoke as an adult. Artichoke, it should be when last time you had artichoke, bruh. I don't think I'm saying it right.

49:42What's the joint they be having?

49:44Like, oh, this gotta be real funny if you say it.

49:47Nah, I'm saying I'm saying I think I'm saying the wrong thing. They be selling it as appetizers at restaurants. Calamari? No, I just had it. Uh uh Brussels sprouts. No, not Brussels sprouts. Yeah, Brussels sprouts.

50:01Brussels sprouts.

50:01You go Brussels sprouts with artichokes? No, no, but Brussels sprouts.

50:05Brussels sprouts.

50:06That's an adult, I feel like that's an adult dish.

50:09Well, the way it's cooked now. But we used to have to eat Brussels sprouts boiled. And boiled Brussels sprouts is less. Yeah, I didn't eat my parents. My mom used to make boiled Brussels sprouts. We used to have to eat brussels those Brussels sprouts. But now Brussels sprouts got the little char on them. You know what I'm saying? Got a little olive oil. Bacon.

50:26Yeah, little bacon.

50:29Young, I Brussels sprouts got bacon. No, the Brussels sprouts you eat got pork in them.

50:34That's they do, they do, and not pork spinach. Uh uh, spinach.

50:39Popeye was eating spinach.

50:41What Popeye got to do with you? Was you eating spinach when you was young? Yes. I wasn't eating spinach. Frozen spinach? The little blop. I used to hate spinach.

50:50Yeah, man. We used to have to eat spinach. We said to eat spinach. I don't know, man. I feel like it's only basil. Only basil? Basil is the thing. Basil, different flavors of ice cream. That's an adult thing. Because when you were a kid, you only got vanilla, strawberry, or chocolate.

51:03Mine was uh mine right now is butter piquan.

51:06See, you got versus you got versatility. But when you a kid, you and it's and it's time to cut the cake. What you want? Sherbert. The Neapolitan.

51:14So you got what what's your favorite ice cream? Uh oh, you don't got a favorite ice cream flavor?

51:24It's either, it's either vanilla or butter piquan.

51:27It's either vanilla. So have you tried others? It sounds like you have uh, you know, don't sound like you have experience with other vanilla.

51:36Nah, I haven't experienced. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm real like straight and yeah, I don't I don't venture out too much. With ice cream, yeah? No, I don't, bro. I'm just I'm telling you, like, now I know it's about to be a thing. Here we go. Go ahead, start up. Start up.

51:50I'm just saying you're sitting here talking about basil and you've never tasted sherbet ice cream. I've had sherbet. You don't like it? Do you like it? I'm not gonna buy it. All right, y'all.

52:05I know your pilot was sort of so what's your OG though? What's your OG sandwich? You come home, OG sandwich though.

52:11Peanut butter and jelly. Peanut butter and jelly. And I'll do it to this day. I will never grow up if that means I have to if that means I have to lose peanut butter and jelly.

52:24I'm not mad at you, dog. P a PBJ is like that. It's like that. A PBJ is like that, but do you toast it? No. You gotta try to toast it.

52:33Nah, see, this is the thing. Okay, this I'm glad you said this. Alright. This is the thing. And I told my wife this the uh the other day. The reason why I'm not a good chef or or or any of that is because I do not want to do all of this extra stuff to to get to the meal. Like, if if my wife made a sandwich and I made a sandwich, the same kind of sandwich, it'll be completely different. Why? Why don't you want to spend time? I don't want to cut nothing up. Like if we're gonna do like a hamburger. A hamburger, she's gonna cut up the tomatoes, cut up the, you know what I'm saying, the onions and like no uh uh uh bratworth, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, okay. She cut up the onions, she'll cut up all of this stuff and she'll present it so you know, so beautiful. Yeah, and then have chips on the side. Man, give me a brat where put ketchup and mustard on it, and I'm good. I don't need that extra stuff. No, no, that's not I don't need to toast the brother.

53:39No, that's not that's not I don't need that's not the truth any of that. That's not the truth. What's not the truth? Because which broad burst is better? What you mean? Hold on. The one you're making or the one with all the stuff on it, the one with all the stuff on it. All right, so it's not that you don't need it, it's that you're lazy. But it's just a ink, it's just a tad. No, it's not a tad. You just say uh several steps. It's not the fact that you don't want it, it's the fact that you're lazy and you don't want to treat yourself or the people around you to a quality meal, eating a struggle meal.

54:13Just because just because I don't have all of the bells and whistles on it don't mean that it's not quality.

54:17You just said it wasn't.

54:18I did not say it wasn't quality.

54:20So you just said which one is better? I said hers is better. Okay, what what grade would you give hers? I'd give hers an A. What would you give yours? A B minus. C. B minus. C. B minus. Ketchup and mustard with no side, don't even know chips on the side. Bro, it's like I put chips on the side. No, no, you just said you're worthless, dog. That's crazy. Minus, dog. My OG sandwich all day long is a turkey and cheese, yo.

54:45Turkey and cheese.

54:46But I'm scissing my junk. I'm not just putting turkey and cheese. I'm taking the turkey, putting it in, some olive oil, a little bit of butter, boom, onions with it. You know what I'm saying? Melt the cheese on it, put it on the bread, and then I toast the bread, cut that junk vicious. Too much. Turkey and cheese on steroids.

55:05Way too much. Way too much. Oh, you know what? Another joint that's a go to is an egg salad. Egg salad sandwich.

55:13Yeah. See, right there, I want to change the subject. Why, yeah? See, that's what I'm saying, young. Why that's not even considered an OG sandwich. Egg salad sandwich.

55:20Why you gonna say it's not my mother used to make egg salad sandwich. How you gonna say it's not an OG sand? Yeah, you just offended me, yo. You just just just went on my whole childhood.

55:29That's not fair, yeah.

55:30What about a tuna fish sandwich?

55:32That's not good either. Nah, tuna fish is the sandwich. Yes, tuna fish sandwich. Nah, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. I'm still trying to get over the fact that you tried you bring your mom in.

55:42I'm sad. All of these things is something that my mother used to cook. My mother used to make tomato sandwiches.

55:49That's tight, yeah. Whatever your mother did, I'm blessed to see your mom. You want to say something so bad? No, be free. I'm not saying nothing. Shout out, no. You said my mother, you're not gonna be a child. No, your chest. No, I'm just saying, no, your childhood is you, bro. So if you like. You never had a tomato sandwich? Um, no, I've never just had tomatoes on bread. Uh I like tomatoes and I like sandwich bread, but I don't like tomato sandwich bread.

56:13Listen, bells and whistles. Tomato sandwiches with bells and whistles. But hold on, you've made it with basil. No, I don't make it. I'm talking about my mother. She used to slice it up, put mayonnaise, salt, pepper, like young. It was a tag. It was a tag.

56:32That's just regular.

56:33No, it was more stuff too, but I just don't know it. Nah, right.

56:37But um, shout out to your mom making you tomato sandwiches, yeah. Shout out. But you know, it's funny as I was thinking about the other day, um, when I was um I was doing a presentation. No, I was riding, I was doing a uh cycle and joint, and we was listening to some 2000s music. Yeah, and I was thinking about like the club in the 2000s, yeah. Was like that. Like that. Like that. Which what was your favorite club in the 2000s? You don't even seem like Obama who was clubbing like that.

57:10I wasn't because I mean I was clubbing, but I wasn't like I wasn't clubbing like that, meaning that so I used to work for the radio station, so I would have to like go to clubs every now and then. Which radio station? I used to work for KYS.

57:25Oh, alright, okay.

57:26So you used to have to go? Yeah, I used to have to go. So I used to go to Republic Gardens because they used to host that joint. I used to go to Love. Okay. Because you know they had host nights on that too. Um, you was a bam on the mic? Used to be like, you gotta get here before 11. Nah, I used to be able to do it.

57:43Because if you're here before 11, we let you in free. Oh, time the line is ridiculous.

57:48Ridiculous line. I was I was a part of the promotion team. I was actually like the handing out flies? Um, no, not really. I used to park the truck in front of the joint. Yeah, I'm trying to figure out what was your job. So I was the promotion assistant, right? So I was the basically the assistant to the promotional director. Okay. So let's say that you won $10,000. I was the person that had to get the check printed and then meet you in the lobby to give you your gifts. Oh, wow. I controlled the the closet with all of the stuff because you know back in the day it was a big deal. Okay. So, you know, we had everything in it. And so if you come up and you won something, I would give it to you. I was also the one that was creating the contest and taking the tickets or taking whatever downstairs to the jocks for them to uh announce it on the radio. Oh, snap, yeah. So yeah, yeah. I was, yeah. You was the production assistant. I was I was pretty, it was pretty dope. That's tight, dog. But yeah, so club wise, I wasn't I I I used to hate clubs, man, because the people like I it's just a it's just like a it's a way, yeah.

58:57It's a way, yeah. Go ahead and say it, dog.

58:59I'm just saying, y'all I mean, yo, first of all, I wasn't I wasn't that dude who like grabbing girls and shitting like yeah. What you mean?

59:12I just you know so But hope they listen wait man wait wait wait because now you're talking about uh woman bamboo I said I just I'm just saying it's a simple question. Okay, what was your favorite club?

59:28I told you, then you asked me about my club exploring.

59:31You said I used to have to work at Republic Gardens in Love.

59:34No, you said what was my favorite club? Then you said, uh, but you don't look like a Bama to be clubbing like that. That's that's how you started. And then so I'ma elaborate on what you asking me.

59:44Do you or don't you have a favorite club?

59:47Have one?

59:48No, all right. That's the answer. I don't have one, I didn't club.

59:54I wouldn't say I didn't club. I just say I don't have one. No, I didn't club. So what define what is the definition of a clubber? Like tell me how many times do you go to a club to be defined as someone who goes to a club often back in the day?

1:00:12Once or twice a month.

1:00:13Once or twice a month.

1:00:14Maybe three.

1:00:16That wasn't me.

1:00:17No, all right, but that wasn't me. Guess who it was? That was you. Yeah, yeah. I used to be in that junk. Dancing? Dancing.

1:00:28Dancing machine type joint? Dancing in the middle, yes, yes. And what club did you what was your favorite club?

1:00:36Tore H2O apart. H2O, I didn't really get down with love because love was like the Bambi's was having fur coats. That wasn't my deal. Bougie type joint. Yeah, man. I don't need nothing with his champagne and and and and fur coats. Yeah, I need, yeah, uh you need yeah, well not, yeah. H2O was I and then uh what's another jump we used to go to? Um Zanzibar. Nah, that was for the old heads. Uh Zanzibar was just like H2O. It was Zanzibar was I'm telling you, it was an older crowd in there. Zanzibar, watch, watch. When we play this back, Zanzibar was an older crowd in the two. It was it was they were older than me, huh?

1:01:16All right, it was a nut joint too. But uh Republic about the same place. I've been in Republican Live Live, I did live. It was too old, Zanzibar, uh uh Live was love, wasn't it? Or dream? Yeah, Dream turned into love, dream turned into love, or love. Love turned into dream or something like that.

1:01:40Nah, live was New Street. It was yeah, remember Club Live? That's where we had so noble mic at. That was Club Live? Nah, I'm just saying. No, no, it was now you launching. All right, all right, you launching, but yeah, H2O is where I really would would dance. And yes, what you were boogie, no drinking, boogie nights, boogie nights, boogie nights, young. That was another one of those eras like college. You don't know what you was in until it was over. I feel because we had no idea that DC, the DMV, was the hub of club club. You just didn't know. We thought it was regular, we thought we was chilling.

1:02:16I saw this clip the other day, and with this dude was like, he was like, DC just doesn't know, like, yeah, it's something to do every week in here, and you think it's regular, but it's now, yeah, still. He was talking about he was talking about now, yes.

1:02:30No, that's a real thing, yeah. And bammers don't have that. Bamers do not have opportunity, like every weekend there is something to do in the city. That's crazy, yeah. That's tight, young. It just goes back to our culture, yeah.

1:02:43We just we just like that, yeah. And then you got money here, true. So they're gonna make they gonna make a way to get the money from you.

1:02:52Yeah, oh, y'all making money, yeah, but it's feeling all the pizza standing line, like it's a whole bunch of people in here, but that's something about getting old is that bammers do not stay out late. Nah, they party only.

1:03:08I'm done.

1:03:09Let's go home when the sun goes down. Yeah, we don't have no time for that no more, yeah.

1:03:15Nah, I it's it's been a minute for me. I've been I I so I've always been kind of like this. I've never really liked partying like that. Yeah, yeah. But you was in a band, you in the band still. You were whole. But even then I felt awkward. I felt awkward out in the like I've never how can I say this? I don't think I tapped into my true self until I became an adult. I think that I was really insecure as a young. But I was popular and I was talented, but people wouldn't, you know, but that helped me disguise the fact that I was insecure and that I didn't like know how to talk to girls and all of that type of stuff. But I still got them because I was talented and I was gifted and I was athletic.

1:04:04Yeah, I am trying my best right now to do to like be in it, be in the conversation with you around insecurity. But young, when you say I I got the girls, I did, because I was talented and gifted. I did. Yeah, I I I'm telling you, I did. Yo, I'm I'm not I I'm not uh disagreeing with you, bruh. You can't. I mean, you it wasn't uh it wasn't up for debate. No, I'm I'm just I didn't know what it I didn't know what to answer into the conversation. Okay, insecurity, I get it.

1:04:35A lot of times as men whatever, yeah. Whatever, yeah. Whatever. Don't try and counsel me.

1:04:50I wasn't trying to counsel me. No, I swear to God, I was trying to be there.

1:04:52I was trying to be there when you were talking about insecurity. Nah, yeah, you just want to argue. And so since you want to argue, let's go ahead and make it, you know what I'm saying? All right, let's make it a thing then. Go ahead and pick one.

1:05:06Boom. Why you got them upside up?

1:05:08No, what you mean? You're not you supposed to just pick one, just pick a random.

1:05:12There we go.

1:05:12All right, boom.

1:05:16Should every person oh shit, this is hilarious. How did I pick this one? Young. All right, let's hear it. Let's hear. Should every person have a whole phase? Why, why not?

1:05:28Ooh, that's crazy. Ooh, and I get to pick.

1:05:31Yes.

1:05:32Come on, go good. I yes, I think that every person needs to have a whole phase. I think that if a person has a whole phase and they're able to experience uh the things in order to determine what they like and what they don't like. Um although it is quote unquote biblically, you know, wrong and all of that, I still think that experimenting allows you to see which which you know who you are.

1:06:00that that's what with with everything like we experiment with food we experiment with with with jobs we experiment why you laughing yeah why you laughing dog well we we experiment with everything and so i definitely think that a whole phase a whole phase uh yeah i think i think that it's it's needed it's needed uh well let me not say that i i think that i think that a whole phase is beneficial however i do think that you can still you know do without it what you can't do that oh you're right yeah so you're right whole phase yeah it's needed whole phase is needed yeah so i got i i'm taking a no side man the hoes what you need to be a hoe for like that don't you you you know one thing about um why you need to be a hoe uh uh no man you don't need to be a hoe you can find somebody you you can find somebody you care about somebody you love and be with them you don't need to be a hoe to find yourself you can find yourself with the person that cares most about you and you don't need to be a hoe in order to understand how to go like you can go with the person that you and then you can explore with that one person and then you can find your way without being a hoe so no you don't have to be a hoe young that is the most weakest thing that I've seen you argue in my life I'm just saying it's because that is the weak it's because I have no that is your weakest argument that I've ever heard from you yeah yeah you need a hoe face that's the craziest question ever young how did I pick that what is the difference between alpha and beta males oh this conversation always young why are we picking these drumps that I can't stand let me tell you something what's the difference between an outer and a beta male alpha alpha and a beta male so what side do we take you take whatever side you want to take it's flip flop so that the the thought and the idea of what an alpha man is they bait us 100 these bammers who weren't it's like so so I'm gonna let you go on your rant but I'm just I'm strictly saying I don't think that you're answering the question I'm gonna let you go on your rant though because I think it's well deserved so what we can just put away with the car but go ahead go I'll stop that no no no no because no no no no because I think it is a valid point and I think and and I think I agree with you and this needs to be right when I when I think of what an alpha man if I have to use that term because I hate that term by the way but if I have to use that term I'm gonna use it to define an alpha male as someone who is able to take care of themselves care about their community cares for children loves their parents valued in their community well um sustains um you know peace and equality and fairness in our hood like if I were thinking about a male alpha male as somebody that I would want to continue to recreate okay right I want them and so but I think the conversation is around these high valued earner whatever would they be saying yeah value man how you like young I be want dog I can't believe I'm saying this on these podcast mics dumb biomas dumbers there young that was one of the reasons why I'm gonna keep it a bean while I made the decision like I'm gonna do this because it's so many weak bamers with microphones who just be rapping ain't got no care for the hood ain't done nothing of any substance and just rapping dog and they disrespecting women they disrespecting our children they ain't having no value add to our hood and our community and they're not even trying they out for self and what they can get and what they can take they vultures so I'm sorry y'all and those type of young dumb bamers young they I'm sorry I'm sorry why are you sorry? Why because this is exactly where I want to go because I knew I knew I knew that this is what was going to happen. It's like here's the thing and we talk I I the thing about social media is intelligence the people with a little bit of intelligence is a little bit of brain they'll see ignorance and they'll just let it go the reason why is because we ain't got no time for it. Yeah we'll get mad we'll be like you stupid yeah you know I'm saying and just kind of go about our day ignorance though loves it they be like yeah you right they in the comment section yeah it'd be high value man the whole time you ain't got nothing nowhere but so what I realize is intelligence has to speak we gotta we gotta start to talk so let's dissect this though I just I and I'm just playing devil's advocate you know what I'm saying oh you about to be the devil yeah I'm about to be the devil well no I'm no no let's cut that out okay I just want to ask a question let's let's be clear I agree with you but I want to ask is there such thing as a high value man no if you use a term like a high value man you automatically a sucker okay so so you just said that there are people that are ignorant right you just said that I feel like I was too harsh just when I said that so I apologize don't don't stop doing that I'm reflective you meant everything you said but I'm reflective I shouldn't have said it like that it's okay you said it and I said it all right go ahead now the intelligent and the ignorant there is not a difference in value with those with with with those two what do you mean just what I said you got intelligent you just said the that intelligent people ignore and oh oh oh oh so so I think see the so the conversation of like not just man but human being right a human being when you when you you would know like you're not gonna put yourself above another like I'm high value which means they're low value like I it doesn't make sense I think self-esteem comes from like who I am as a person and I feel like I'm good and I'm strong and I'm capable and able but I'm not comparing myself to another man so to say I'm a high value man so it's just a comparison that makes that that that just seems crazy. Yeah it seems wild to me okay it seems wild and it seems like it it seems like a man with low self-esteem what it would it what it calls out to me to have to say that you're something when you enter into a room rather than just be that person yeah it's say it's signaling something for me.

1:13:32It's like oh you need validation rather than letting your presence be the validation I totally agree so I totally agree but I do think that presence also shows the value and so what I'm saying is I don't I'm not I don't necessarily think that I think that there is so so when you walk in a room you know what I'm saying the way you speak the way you carry yourself or whatever it holds a certain amount of value versus if someone else comes in and they don't present that way you know to the general public that is viewing it sees the value. Now I understand that you're not supposed to you know self-proclaim value but I do think that there is a difference in this world like when it comes to intellectual or someone being intelligent and someone not you know I think that that adds value to you you know and I think it adds value not only personal but professional so it can but I'm just saying that there is the way they're using it is whack.

1:14:42Yeah so that's what I'm saying like I'm I'm not disagreeing that certain things can create value and the things that you value about a person like there's things that I value about our friendship there's things that I value about people I interact with yeah but I would never call you a high I wouldn't put that yeah moniker the moniker says or speaks to people who use it like for example I've never met a high value man say that they're a high value man. Totally that's what I'm saying. I I feel you know what I'm saying never yeah so I mean with the I said I'm a you sound corny I'm gonna put you in the yeah I don't that sound like you stabbing them you're gonna stab him I was putting them in the fry oh that look like you was you was shaking them you don't deserve you high value I'm gonna chop you into pieces yeah nah I I mean I'm I'm in totally I'm I totally agree with you that's agreeing though yeah I never liked that alpha you know and beta thing because it always placed I think it always placed value on the wrong thing you know because when you think of alpha or how they uh uh speak about it is someone that is dominant someone who is aggressive someone who is um low self-esteem yeah yeah so so so all of that you know but I just also think that someone who is if you look at like the animal kingdom like they don't they don't that's not how most of them lead nope they lead with compassion you know what I'm saying they lead with caution they lead with pride you know it's a sense and and they lead with community you know and so if you're not leading with those things I don't know how you can call yourself an alpha or if there's even a such thing as an alpha in a thing there's no such thing there's no such thing you have there's no such thing and that even that conversation that's why even when it came up it frustrates me right like um so I think even a conversation yeah there's no such thing all we are is living growing organisms trying to get better and trying to figure it all out and a lot of times men have this thing of like trying to dominate yeah like want want to dominate women specifically yeah um and those are all that that is a a clear sign very clear to me of like needing work like having work to do I'm not even gonna call it my I'm not even gonna label it low self-esteem you already did yeah but it should and but I reflect I'd be trying to think back of like using my words in the right way and it I think it it's just like you you know we got we all got work to do everybody this everybody has work to do sit up here and be like y'all some punk ass dudes and then you be like oh I take it back y'all not no punk young you said what you said huh stand on business bruh yeah I got the book uh book boom I'm putting it up we gotta make sure that I I clip we clip the book this is souls of black folk souls of black folk it is a classic written by WEB the boy you just started it I'm rereading it I read it in college I want to read it again because I feel like I will I would get some different information it really talks about the double consciousness of being um of being black in uh America and the the double consciousness of uh existing uh in you know in America and this was first published in 1903 so it is you know a very amazing book bro everybody should read it if you're black definitely you should read this okay all right so you got it next yes yeah I'm getting four all right for sure all right man this has this has been a little dope conversation I got you angry twice I did yeah you got angry angry twice when I get angry you got angry with the alpha beta thing I went and then it was yeah she was all right that she used that I'm gonna see the playback yeah then you're gonna be like you're gonna call me young yeah I can't stand losing young I just saw the joy young go ahead dog you're bad and what else I misrepresented yeah it's okay to be reflective yeah I ain't say I think that's part is it's it's not it's not that you're that I have a problem with you being reflective because I don't you know I don't what I have a problem with is you trying to uh what's the word you're you're trying to manage the emotion that you're feeling and you would like that's how you feel no I get it I get it I understand I think that it it it may be it might be from my career bro yeah and I know these bam is gonna say something I know that we're gonna have some comments people gonna be oh they they they they brown nosing oh they cabin for oh they but that's what I'm saying I I know that that's gonna happen but I don't give a I don't give I don't care I don't care but that's my problem that's my problem what is that you care no I want to get violent you want to get violent yeah that that's my that's an issue that's an issue that I like it it turns me into like a violent person it makes yeah it I don't I'm not gonna act on it but I'm to you ask about this feeling that I have like it frustrates me to the point where I feel like if you can't have an intellectual conversation do you want to you know I'm saying Bam or something do you want to fight if we can't talk about it my bad yeah you want to fight yeah I'm sorry but that's that's the force but let me I can't get I can't get it out of me that's cool young this has been uh excellent podcast young you know I'm excited to be doing with you you already know bro and young you cycling my man y'all check my man out at crunch yeah we are the cycling fit the 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